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Legislative Assembly
Draft Report of Debates
The Honourable Raj Chouhan, Speaker
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The House met at 10:02 a.m.
[The Speaker in the chair.]
Routine Business
Prayers and reflections: Lawrence Mok.
Introductions by Members
Kristina Loewen: This morning I want to introduce to you my parents. They’re here to support me, and I’m excited to have their support in this House.
I want to point out that although I represent Kelowna Centre, they actually live in my beautiful colleague’s riding of Abbotsford-Mission, and so they are here supporting her as well.
Orders of the Day
Private Members’ Statements
Subject Heading Here
Susie Chant: I rise today wearing the colours of Team Canada in Invictus and the colours of Team Canada Wheelchair Rugby to speak on the remarkable events that were held earlier this month, the Invictus Games.
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To start, I acknowledge that I am speaking from the ancestral lands of the lək̓ʷəŋən-speaking people, the Esquimalt and the Songhees. Additionally, I am grateful to represent North Vancouver–Seymour, in the traditional lands of the səlilwətaɬ and Sḵwx̱wú7mesh people.
When I had the honour of serving as the Parliamentary Secretary for Accessibility, I was privileged to witness the remarkable journey that led to the Invictus Games coming to Vancouver Whistler. From the very beginning, it was clear that this event would be an extraordinary celebration of resilience, courage and unity.
It started with the historic announcement that the four host First Nations, Lilwat7úl, Sḵwx̱wú7mesh, səlilwətaɬ and xʷməθkʷəy̓əm, would play a central role in welcoming the games. Their leadership and cultural influence were integral in shaping the event. Soon after, the confirmation of federal and provincial funding, along with significant partnerships with business sponsors, ensured the success of this remarkable initiative.
A particularly memorable milestone was the unveiling of the Invictus flag at the Vancouver Art Gallery. Designed by the First Nations artists, the flag’s emblem powerfully symbolized strength and perseverance. The moment set the stage for the inspiring events leading up to the opening ceremonies.
The opening ceremonies at B.C. Place were unforgettable. One of the first sights outside was the presence of 18 therapy dogs and their handlers who had gathered from all across British Columbia, including one from North Vancouver school district. These dogs provided emotional support to athletes, their families and friends, easing the intensity of competition and fostering an atmosphere of comfort and encouragement.
The ceremonies themselves sent a powerful tone of allyship and support. Every team was welcomed with warmth and respect, embodying the very spirit of the games. A particularly moving moment came when a volunteer — part of the Bumblebees, named for their black and yellow uniforms — shared a story about the Ukrainian team as they prepared to enter the arena. They were embraced by volunteers, a deeply emotional exchange of solidarity and support.
One of the most profound moments of the evening was when a lone piper played “Highland Cathedral” before a silent audience of over 40,000 people. This piper had performed over 160 ramp ceremonies and once believed he would never play again. Yet here he stood, honouring his comrades and demonstrating the profound healing power of the games.
Throughout the competition, over 500 athletes from 23 nations showcased their determination and resilience. These wounded and ill service members and veterans competed in an impressive range of sports, including wheelchair rugby and basketball, seated volleyball and fixed position rowing at the Vancouver Convention Centre. Swimming events took place at the University of British Columbia Aquatic Centre, while the Whistler Olympic site hosted the newly introduced winter sports. For some athletes, it was their first encounter with snow, let alone high-speed skiing and sledding.
The role of the four host First Nations extended beyond the opening ceremonies. They contributed significantly by designing the game’s emblem and medals, organizing a blanketing ceremony for all 550 participants and creating a dedicated athletes’ home within Vancouver Convention Centre and Whistler. This space provided a welcoming environment where athletes could gather, share meals and connect. Additionally, the venue housed a polymedical clinic, a pharmacy, a healing hut and even a tattoo space, though I personally opted for a sticker.
What set these games apart was the deep camaraderie and mutual respect among participants and supporters. Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, spoke with heartfelt appreciation about the origins of the Invictus Games as a means to help injured and ill service members and veterans heal, regain confidence and rediscover their purpose. Lord Charles Allen, chairman of the games, displayed unwavering enthusiasm, engaging with participants and supporters alike.
Among the many inspiring individuals I met with was Cakes, a woman from Birmingham who has attended every Invictus Games since their inception in 2014. She dedicates her time to baking cakes for wounded military personnel, offering them a sense of comfort and home during their recovery.
I also had the privilege of meeting a young woman who has served as a military neuro-physiotherapist overseas, before becoming a patient herself after a severe leg injury. She later became an Invictus competitor, winning a medal in skeleton, a sport she tried for the first time in Whistler.
The legacy of the Invictus Games will endure, continuing to inspire and uplift those who have served. This event stands as a powerful testament to resilience, unity and the transformative power of sport, reminding all of us of the strength that comes from perseverance, community and commitment to the journey of healing.
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Subject Heading Here
Lorne Doerkson: It’s certainly a pleasure to bring greetings from Cariboo-Chilcotin. Today I wanted to take the opportunity to tell the House a little bit about Atlantic Power.
Atlantic Power, for decades in Cariboo-Chilcotin, has created power from a by-product. That by-product might be waste from a mill; it might be waste from the remnants of forest fire or the remnants of logging. Those are types of products this plant consumes to create electricity.
It ended the need for beehive burners. For anybody that remembers that piece of equipment, it was devastating to the air quality. It was fly ash all over many communities. So this power producer brought an end to the need for that type of equipment. It created an entire industry around the creation of electricity.
I believe that this power plant is actually now part of the infrastructure of our community. It has been there that long. So many now have come to rely on it to use the products that they now sell. This is the largest property tax payer in our community at almost $1.7 million, $1.8 million per year. It employs 40 people full-time. It employs, indirectly, 100 people in our community. They have been an amazing community partner to Williams Lake, and indeed the entire region, but particularly to Cariboo-Chilcotin.
What’s at risk, of course, is the loss of all of that commerce, but not just the commerce. It is the loss of 50,000 homes of electricity. This is what this power producer creates. This comes at a time when we are purchasing power for a larger need than ever before from places like Alberta and Washington.
The issue at hand is a contract that was signed in 2019 between this power producer and also between B.C. Hydro. That contract did not have the opportunity to contemplate hyperinflation. It didn’t have the opportunity to contemplate the increased demand in power. We have had meeting after meeting after meeting about this power plant. I can tell you that what we need is B.C. Hydro and Atlantic Power in the same room working together to solve this for so many reasons, and I’ve outlined some of those.
But we need to save this green energy provider in Cariboo-Chilcotin. There’s no question about that. I’ll say it again. The loss of this means $1.7 million or $1.8 million per year, 40 full-time jobs and 100 indirect jobs. But it’s the loss of the electricity that concerns me the most, particularly when we are able to create that at a local level. There are many of these plants in British Columbia, and I’m concerned about all of them.
Every level of government — including the MP, Todd Doherty; the chair of the Cariboo regional district, Margo Wagner; the mayor of Williams Lake, Surinderpal Rathor; and myself — are all in agreement and have all written the Premier and Minister of Energy on this topic.
Today, I am begging; I’m calling on the Premier of this province, the Minister of Energy, the Minister of Forests and the Minister of Environment to please all get into the same room with B.C. Hydro, with Atlantic Power, and solve this problem — not just for the residents of Cariboo-Chilcotin or Williams Lake, but for the residents of British Columbia. We need a solution to this, and we need it soon. It is almost too late, and we are going to lose this power producer if we do not come to resolution.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the time to address this House today.
Subject Heading Here
George Anderson: I rise today to recognize Black History Month as a time for reflection, learning and celebration. However, I also rise with a challenge.
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Let us not confine this month to only be the time that we recognize the contributions, struggles and triumphs of Black individuals. Black history is not separate from our shared history. It’s woven into the fabric of this province and our country.
It is global history. It is the story of resilience in the face of exclusion, of excellence in the face of systemic barriers. It is the story of those who built, who led, who created, who fought not just for themselves but for a just and more equitable society for all. This history must be part of our understanding of who we are as a society.
Throughout Canada’s history, Black individuals have been builders, innovators and leaders, yet for far too long, their names are left out of our textbooks, their contributions overshadowed and their struggles minimized.
Take, for example, Mifflin Gibbs, who arrived in British Columbia in 1858. Seeking opportunity and equality, he became a successful entrepreneur, a respected community leader and was eventually elected to Victoria city council, the first Black individual to hold public office in British Columbia. He fought for the rights of Black settlers, standing against discrimination while contributing to the economic justice and political fabric of this province. His legacy reminds us that Black leadership is not new, it is simply too often ignored.
Consider the story of Hogan’s Alley, once the heart of Vancouver’s Black community — a vibrant, thriving neighbourhood, home to businesses, culture and deep-rooted families. And yet, in the name of progress, it was torn apart, its residents displaced, a viaduct put in its place, and its history nearly erased.
Right here at home, in 1959, the Deas Island Tunnel was opened. However, its name was changed to the Massey Tunnel, erasing the contributions of John Sullivan Deas, a Black entrepreneur who contributed to the economic vitality of our province.
When we speak of Black history, we must also speak of the injustices that have been inflicted and the work still left to do. Economically, Black Canadians have been contributors, building businesses, fuelling industry and shaping the workforce, but barriers still persist. Today, Black workers continue to earn less than their counterparts. Black entrepreneurs face disproportionate challenges to accessing capital and investment. Acknowledging Black excellence is also ensuring that economic justice is not just an aspiration but a reality.
In science, we stand on the shoulders of Black innovators, names too often forgotten. The very technology that powers our world owes a debt to Black inventors and scientists. Dr. Anderson Ruffin Abbott, Canada’s first Black doctor, provided critical medical care during the American Civil War and became a respected individual in public health.
The inventions of Black innovators such as Elijah McCoy, whose engineering work transformed railway technology, shaped industries far beyond what we recognize — the traffic light, the pacemaker, computer technology, advancements that changed the world. Yet, how often do we teach these stories? How often do young Black students sit in classrooms never learning that the people who look like them changed the world? How often do we ensure that Black young children see themselves reflected in textbooks, our boardrooms, our laboratories or even our Legislature?
Representation is not a privilege, it’s a necessity. In culture, Black voices have defined art, music and literature, from Portia White, the world-renowned Nova Scotian contralto, to contemporary artists shaping Canada’s creative landscape.
Black culture is not just influential, it’s foundational. Yet for generations, Black artists have been underfunded, underrepresented, undervalued, and that must change. To celebrate Black culture is to honour its roots, its influences and its rightful place in the mainstream, not just in Black History Month but every single day.
Here at home we have, in British Columbia, individuals like Dr. June Francis, Mr. Markiel Simpson, Ms. Shalema Gantt and Paul Winn, who have worked tirelessly to make sure that Black history, Canadian history, is retained and not lost. The work of Dr. Francis, Ms. Gantt, Mr. Simpson and Mr. Winn has not solely been about representing black voices, but their aim has been at creating equal opportunity.
Dr. Martin Luther King once said: “In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.” Many times, silence has stood in the way of progress in ensuring that people feel part of our society.
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In conclusion, we need to stand up for Black voices. We need to remember Canadian history and remember that Black history is not only Black history, but it’s Canadian history, and we must honour it every single day.
The Speaker: Members, keep in mind all statements are strictly five minutes.
Subject Heading Here
Brennan Day: Today we find ourselves again discussing the impacts of tariffs and international trade disputes. At times, discussions in this House feel more like political theatre, but back home in Courtenay-Comox, the consequences of these tariffs will be real, immediate and deeply concerning should they come to pass.
In our riding, the local economy relies heavily on strong and stable trade relationships, not just in forestry and agriculture but especially in tourism, an industry that forms the backbone of our vibrant community. Escalating trade tensions and retaliatory tariffs create uncertainty, and uncertainty is the enemy of prosperity. Families and small businesses in Courtenay-Comox can’t afford uncertainty when livelihoods depend on open borders, welcoming visitors and thriving local businesses.
Tourism operators in our riding tell me that when international relationships become strained, travellers from the U.S. and elsewhere reconsider their plans to visit our province. Hotels, restaurants and countless small businesses are the first to feel the pinch. Local artisans, craft breweries and outfitters, businesses that showcase everything Courtenay-Comox and British Columbia have to offer, begin to struggle.
These are the faces behind every tariff and trade dispute we discuss here. The hard-working men and women of our forestry sector know only too well the impacts of prolonged trade disputes and the outsized impact it can have on the small, rural and remote communities across this great province that have been decimated by the softwood lumber dispute. There is a strong chance they will once again be the first casualty of a prolonged trade battle.
Of course, Canada did not start this dispute, but now it falls upon us to respond carefully. British Columbians and Canadians will always stand strong, because Canada is not for sale. We will not bend the knee to veiled threats by foreign actors. But in standing firm, we must also remain clear-headed and strategic. We must protect Canadian industries, Canadian workers and Canadian families with caution, diplomacy and unity, not by escalating tensions further with impulsive reactions.
I urge this government to adopt a true Canada-first approach but one tempered by patience and strategic thinking. We must reinforce our national message of strength and unity without further inflaming the conflict. The goal must always be swift resolution, not prolonged uncertainty and economic harm.
Let us not forget who we are here to serve: the people of Courtenay-Comox and all British Columbians. We need careful, responsible strategy that protects jobs, supports local businesses and ensures our economy continues to thrive. They deserve solutions, not just slogans. Canada is strong enough to withstand these challenges, but strength lies in wise decisions and careful actions, not in political theatre.
Today I ask all members of this House and this government to proceed with caution, prioritize real economic impacts on our communities and put Canadians first.
Subject Heading Here
Rohini Arora: Last Friday, International Mother Language Day was observed. And as many of you have already likely guessed, it’s one of my favourites. A day that goes just beyond words, celebrating the essence of our identities, culture, connection to our families and land.
Language isn’t just a means of communication. It is so much more than that. It shapes the way we think. It shapes the way we express our emotions and the world we live in. Our mother tongue is the first language we learn, and it’s the first language in which we experience love, comfort and belonging.
For me, that language is Punjabi. The first words I remember from my parents were mera bachcha. That means “my child.” I remember being three or four and learning to read and write the alphabet and learning to read from the Guru Granth Sahib. These were bonding moments. And because it was so much fun, to this very day, I continue to keep learning languages.
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You see, languages aren’t just for communication. They carry the stories of our ancestors, the wisdom of generations and the values that have been passed down through time. The poetry hits different, and the sayings often can’t be translated over quite right.
It is a living connection to our heritage, grounding us in who we are and where we come from. Today we live in a bilingual country where both English and French are the official languages. But there are languages that were spoken here long before this vast region was colonized, languages of the First Nations, Métis and Inuit peoples. In B.C., there are over 30 languages spoken by First Nations. Burnaby East itself is situated on the lands of the hən̓q̓əmin̓əm- and Sḵwx̱wú7mesh-speaking peoples.
Revitalizing First Nations’ language is integral in undoing the harm caused by colonization. So I have to shout out the work of the First Peoples Cultural Council, which was formed in 1990. Their mandate is to assist B.C. First Nations in their effort to revitalize their languages, arts, cultures and heritage.
The power of our mother language cannot be overstated. It plays a crucial role in building our confidence. Think about it. When we speak in our native tongue, there’s a sense of ease, of comfort, of authenticity. It allows us to express ourselves fully, to connect deeply with others.
I lost my spot. I really lost my spot.
Interjections.
Rohini Arora: I am nervous. First time.
In a world where so many of us are constantly adjusting to different languages and cultures, this sense of comfort is invaluable. It gives us strength and assurance as we navigate life.
But beyond personal identity and confidence, knowing another language is an asset in today’s interconnected world. As globalization continues to shape our society, multilingualism has become more important than ever. Being fluent in our native language, along with other languages, opens up countless opportunities in both our personal and professional lives. In the workplace, it allows us to build relationships with people from different backgrounds, giving us a unique advantage in cross-cultural communication.
Whether in business, education or diplomacy, speaking multiple languages enhances our ability to understand, collaborate and innovate. Not to mention, it is a great workout for the brain, for a child’s early development, and it helps to fight against Alzheimer’s and dementia.
Our mother tongue holds the key to preserving our culture and traditions. It connects us to the stories of our ancestors’ songs, dances, rituals and the values that define our communities. Celebrating and nurturing it is an act of pride and, in many cases, an act of resistance. It is a commitment to ensuring that our heritage thrives for generations to come.
As we reflect on International Mother Language Day, let us not only celebrate the languages that we speak but also embrace the richness they bring into our lives. Let’s be proud of our heritage, our roots and the unique perspectives our languages offer. Let’s recognize that our mother language is not just a means of communication but a living testament to our identity, our strength and already learned lessons as we walk our paths.
Subject Heading Here
Gavin Dew: Canada and the United States share one of the closest relationships of any two nations in the world. We are linked by history, trade, culture and deep personal connections. We fought side by side in world wars, built the world’s longest undefended border and created one of the most successful economic partnerships in history. Both countries were built by immigrants seeking freedom, opportunity and a better life.
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We admire American ambition and innovation. But Canada is different, something worth standing up for. We are not a smaller version of America. We have our own identity, values and path to the future.
Canada will never be America. We are proud of our shared history, but we are not the 51st state. We make our own decisions and stand up for our own economy, our own workers and our own future as an independent nation. John Diefenbaker captured this spirit when he said: “I am Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold.”
That is the Canada we must defend, a Canada where all people of all backgrounds can build a future of freedom, opportunity and shared prosperity. We may not have broken from the Crown in revolution, but Canada was built by people who refused to be ruled from afar, people who pushed back against the blood-dimmed tide of tyranny. We fought for democracy at Vimy Ridge, Juno Beach and Kandahar, standing for freedom.
But for years, we have had a government that seems ashamed of our identity, history and industries. This NDP government discouraged calling ourselves British Columbians and enabled those who defaced monuments and erased history, and now they try to wrap themselves in the flag. But real leadership means standing up for our people and our economy all the time, not just saying “God bless Canada” when it’s politically convenient.
The tariff crisis should be a call to action. Canada must stand on its own two feet, unlocking responsible resource development, creating opportunity and ensuring prosperity is shared by all. But we came into this fight weak. Under the NDP, B.C. has become less competitive and less prepared for economic shocks.
For years, this government weakened our ability to compete and our ability to grow our economy. They closed trade offices, blocked infrastructure, increased taxes and added red tape. They created conditions where investments on the land base are risky and slow, and job creators who are not tethered to the land base are leaving to places that encourage entrepreneurship and celebrate success.
It’s time for a new vision, one of economic sovereignty built on innovation, partnership and competitiveness. First, we must expand trade offices, especially in emerging markets. Building lasting relationships is essential for opening new markets and attracting investment.
Second, we need infrastructure that unlocks our resources. That includes pipelines, ports, railways, highways and digital networks. A nation that cannot move its products efficiently cannot compete.
Third, we need a regulatory environment that is both robust and efficient. We need clear rules, timely decisions and a balanced approach to development.
Fourth, we must engage Indigenous communities as true partners in economic reconciliation. That is not just a moral imperative; it is a legal and economic one.
Fifth, we must invest in our workforce through education, training and innovation. A competitive economy needs skilled workers.
Finally, we need to stand firm on the world stage, defending our interests in trade negotiations, challenging unfair practices and ensuring that Canada is respected as a trading partner.
Canada has faced adversity before and emerged stronger. But strength comes from action, not waiting and not political theatre. We must seize this moment to redefine our economic future and to build an economically sovereign nation that stands strong, dreams big and gets things done again.
The Speaker: Hon. Members, according to the order paper, we will look to the member next on the list of precedence to move their items of business. That member today is the member for Coquitlam-Maillardville.
Jennifer Blatherwick: I seek leave to make an introduction.
Leave granted.
[10:35 a.m.]
Introductions by Members
Jennifer Blatherwick: I would beg the leave of the House to introduce Chris Seifert, who serves this province as a medical professional, driving an ambulance and saving us whenever need arises in our communities. He is a dedicated professional and an avid follower of politics. I would like to ask the House to welcome him here to join us today.
Private Members’ Motions
The Speaker: The member to move the motion.
Motion 7 — Motion Heading Name
Jennifer Blatherwick: I move Motion 7 standing in my name on the order paper.
[That this House condemns President Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs as wrong and unjustified measures aimed at threatening Canadian sovereignty and endorses the nationally-coordinated “Team Canada” plan to respond with proportionate retaliatory action if necessary, including strategically targeting industries and regions such as products from Republican states, to maximize pressure to deter President Trump from implementing or continuing tariffs.]
First, I would like to congratulate Team Canada on their win this last week. We are so proud of the grit that was showed bringing this one home. You did good, boys, and it was good for all of us to be pulled together as one nation to celebrate your extraordinary efforts.
The people in my community are still celebrating that win. When I talk with them, they want to talk about the familiar, like sports and kids and school. But I am getting pretty used to the number 11 sneaking in there. I am not talking about Travis Konecny, our number 11. I am talking about their concern about the number 11 that happens here when you are worried, when you are wanting to talk to someone that you feel represents you.
The next thing they say is: “What do you think about these tariffs?” They follow up with how the tariffs are going to affect them, their small business, the price of their family’s groceries and their children’s jobs. We talk about that, and we talk about possible government responses, breaking down interprovincial trade barriers and broadening our international trade. Pretty much that is what everyone wants to speak about.
Then there’s the inevitable part of the conversation where they get calm, and they get serious. It doesn’t matter who they are. If they’re a tradesperson or a worker or a teacher or a teenager or a grandparent, they tell me: “We are not interested in becoming the 51st state.” They want me to say it back to them, they want to hear it, and they want to know our response to bullying tactics.
My neighbours and all of our neighbours have very little opportunity to be heard on the international stage, and they want us to stand up for them. They want us to stand up for the people and the businesses that will be hurt by tariffs. The sudden economic shock is challenging for consumers, for workers, employers, and the workers who will be hurt the most are going to be the most vulnerable, who are most likely to be minimum-wage workers, who are women, gender-diverse people, those with disabilities, new Canadians and racialized people.
I am not and I have never been a brawler. I don’t like arguing. In general, it is wasteful. I have a family. I have work to get done. I have causes that I care about. We all do. I don’t believe that, in general, loud aggression solves problems. I believe in the thoughtful application of logical consequence.
One of our Canadian strengths is unity, our togetherness, how much we care about each other. We can stand shoulder to shoulder with the other provinces of Canada. We can make happen what our neighbours want to see echoed from their own hearts out into the public discourse: a proportionate, well-considered action in response to an unjustified threat.
Our relationship to the United States is long, and it has brought both our countries peace and prosperity envied by the entire world. When our homes and livelihoods are threatened, it is tempting to lose a little bit of that Canadian politeness. But we don’t want to unilaterally punish the American people, many of whom do not support the tariffs.
In these times, old labels are not as relevant. What matters is who people show themselves to be by their actions. If they show support for Canada, if they are resistant to the breakdown of international relationship, if they are against the tariffs, we know that long friendship still exists and we still have friends in the USA.
What if, against everyone’s best interest, they have shown support for the tariffs? Then we need a rational, measured, targeted response to reach key decision-makers while minimizing the effects for everyone else, Canadian and American. The goal is never vengeance, not vengeance. The goal is to show that there is a result to choices that hurt people. There is no freedom from consequences.
We’re calling on all of the House to come together to endorse the nationally coordinated Team Canada plan, to support British Columbians in this crisis, to send a strong signal that we are united. We are Team Canada. It is the last game of the finals. We are in overtime, and we need to put the puck in the net as a team.
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Kiel Giddens: I appreciate the opportunity to speak in the chamber this morning. It’s actually my first opportunity to do so.
We’re here to speak to the motion presented by the member from Coquitlam-Maillardville. I understand this is also the member’s first motion brought forward in this House, so I congratulate her for doing that and being the first MLA to begin debate in a renewed format for private members’ time.
First of all, I will say that I’m glad that the members opposite are finally on board with supporting Team Canada. It was pretty incredible to see our Canadian boys defeat the Americans in dramatic, overtime fashion. It had to be McDavid. And I hear that Nickelback was playing loudly in the dressing room.
It’s amazing when we see our country come together, and it’s amazing when we see Canadians wrapped in the flag, showing pride in our nation. We haven’t seen enough of this the past few years. There have been too many divisive narratives pitting Canadians against one another. We’ve seen activists defacing and tearing down statues in attempts to cancel our history.
I love Canada, and I love British Columbia — our mountains, lakes, rivers, big wide-open skies, our rich heritage and, most importantly, our people. Our country and our history aren’t perfect, but it belongs to all of us. I’ve always been a student of history, and I think it’s best to learn from it and always strive to improve as a society.
I fully disagree with President Trump and believe he’s making a serious mistake with tariffs. The last time we saw a serious tariff war happen was legislation debated and passed over 1929-1930 in the United States that precipitated a trade war. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act extended the Great Depression for years and was a complete and utter disaster.
That’s why we’re in a historic time where our words have consequences. I think I have some concerns with some of the language in the member’s motion that is actually playing exactly into the narrative President Trump wants us to fall into. He wants evidence to divide us from the American people in order to win support for his tariff policy. The idea of targeting red states unfortunately plays right into his hand.
Yes, Canada will need to be ready with retaliatory tariffs if it comes to that. But there are two questions we need to ask today. What are we going to do to prevent a trade war from occurring in the first place? Two, what are we doing to make sure B.C. can stand on its own two feet? These are the questions that British Columbians care about.
I think B.C. needs to take the high road and get results for people here at home. I want to see a government that makes smart and effective arguments directly to the hearts and minds of the American people, not just grandstanding here in the Legislature. For example, why isn’t the Premier making B.C.’s case in all of the Pacific NorthWest Economic Region states? We’ve had a relationship with these states for decades.
We have an NDP government that now claims to be Team Canada. Where was Team Canada when the NDP said they would use every tool in the toolbox to stop the Trans Mountain expansion, a project that was all about increasing our domestic energy security for our own refining capacity in B.C., while providing the only opportunity for exports outside of the U.S. that we have for Canadian energy?
Why have the NDP done nothing on the softwood lumber agreement file their entire term in office? There hasn’t been an agreement since 2015.
Why isn’t the NDP shouting from the rooftops that made-in-B.C. LNG needs to be exported to global markets? Instead, they pretend that the industry doesn’t exist.
Why have the NDP done nothing on internal trade despite sitting on the federal-provincial-territorial committee on internal trade since 2017? The Nova Scotia government has promised to introduce legislation that would ease trade and labour mobility with other provinces. What’s the province of B.C.’s plan? It looks like the plan is again to pay lip service to internal trade while taking potshots to score political points.
We should be showing leadership in Canada to get things done. We should show leadership for our resource sectors, for our small businesses, and we should actually be focused on making life more affordable for British Columbian families. The public wants us to do that for them, and I know the people of Prince George–Mackenzie want me to be working on that.
Canada is not for sale, and neither is British Columbia, but we need to stand on our own two feet by getting our own economic house in order.
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Let’s truly get on board with Team Canada and fight for British Columbians.
Paul Choi: I rise today in support of the motion condemning President Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs on Canadian goods — tariffs that are wrong, unjustified and threaten our national sovereignty.
Let me be clear at the outset that this is not a fight that we picked, and it is not a fight we want. However, these punitive tariffs pose an immediate threat to Canadian jobs, services and communities, and we must respond firmly and strategically to protect British Columbians and all Canadians.
We should all be able to agree that protecting our workers and our local industry is not a partisan issue. This motion is grounded in the fundamental principle, and I urge every member of this House, regardless of party affiliation, to support it.
As a former business owner and a former president of the North Road Business Improvement Association, many of my friends and neighbours are suffering. Every Canadian, every British Columbian should be able to stand behind our workers, our businesses and our national sovereignty without hesitation.
British Columbians, from loggers and miners in the north to advanced tech workers and agrifood producers in the south, are worried about their jobs and their futures right now. My own constituents in Burnaby South–Metrotown include small business owners who import and export seafood and B.C. wine, and it took over decades to build cross-border relationships that are now in jeopardy due to President Trump.
Across our province, people tell us that they’re condemning…. They’re concerned and want to know that their government and their elected representatives have their back. Premier David Eby has been clear. We stand with B.C. workers, businesses and families.
The motion before us endorses a nationally coordinated Team Canada plan. This means standing side by side with federal, provincial and territorial leaders to present a united front, maximizing our political, economic and diplomatic leverage. Even in the midst of our everyday differences, we share a deep love for our country. We owe it to all Canadians to stand strong when faced with unfair tariffs that threaten jobs and economic stability from coast to coast to coast.
For my part as Parliamentary Secretary for Asia-Pacific Trade, I have been working closely with my colleagues to diversify our trade partnerships and reduce overdependence on an increasingly unreliable neighbour. That’s not to say that we reject friendship or commerce with the United States. It’s far from it. We value our neighbours, many of whom are also strongly opposed to these tariffs. But we cannot allow our national prosperity to rest on precarious trade policies that can shift with the political winds.
So even as we tackle the ongoing challenges of global inflation and supply chain disruptions, we face new threats that could devastate the livelihoods of many B.C. families. We cannot keep all of our eggs in one basket, and that’s why we’re ramping up efforts and strengthening existing relationships with Asia and beyond. As Parliament Secretary for Asia-Pacific Trade, I have been meeting with Korean, China, India, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesian consul generals, to name a few, and trade partners to discuss how we can increase our trade relationships and mutually improve our economy.
British Columbia is the best province in the greatest country on earth. It is our duty to protect the people who live here — their jobs, their services and our shared future. This motion affirms that commitment by condemning these unjustified tariffs and endorsing a plan to respond if necessary.
We do not seek conflict. We seek fairness and security for our communities. Let’s be clear to Donald Trump or anyone else who might threaten our sovereignty with unfair trade measures. We will stand together as Canadians, proud and resolute.
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We will protect our workers, our businesses and our industries with all the tools at our disposal.
I urge all members of this House to support this motion. Let us unite in a spirit of cooperation and show British Columbians and the world that we are prepared to act decisively and in unison to safeguard the economic well-being of our province and our country.
Trevor Halford: I am thankful for the opportunity to speak to today’s motion. I don’t think anyone wants to see punitive tariffs put forward. I say this, and I mean this respectfully…. Part of the challenge we have, when we look at the comments we’ve seen from the Premier, is around the genuineness of those comments, the authenticity of those comments.
We just saw one of the greatest hockey games witnessed, with Canada versus the U.S., and fortunately we came out on top. We saw that same moment of pride in the 2010 Olympics when we were cheering our men and women to get gold — one of the most successful games ever hosted, and games that brought hundreds of millions of dollars to our economy.
And great memories. I remember sitting with my son, watching those games. I also remember the now Premier of the province chasing police and offering support to protesters during those games — games where we were all wrapped in the flag of Canada, yet the leader of this province chose a much, much different tack.
When we talk about the issues out in front of us, one of the biggest challenges that I see is how unprepared we are economically for what lies in front of us now. These are scary times.
The previous speaker talked about the impacts to small business. We have to look at the fact that small businesses, before these tariffs were even mentioned, were hanging on by a thread. Now it’s even worse. We have to look at the fact….
When we talk about standing up for our workers, have we been standing up for our workers over the last seven years? For the workers that were working on the TMX line — did we stand up for those workers? Some of us in this House did. Some of us in this House did not, very openly.
When we talk about LNG, did we stand up for those workers? Some of us did; some of us clearly did not. In the last 90 days…. Those same people are going to stand up, and they’re going to champion those workers and say: “Today we have your back.” Well, what about tomorrow? What about next year? What about the year after that? Will those same people have those workers’ backs then?
Part of the problem that we have is…. When we look at things and we want to say…. We want to invite people to B.C. Then be competitive. Have a tax structure that is competitive. Don’t change the goalposts on industries in the middle of a game. Don’t do that, right? Don’t pick winners and losers.
All of a sudden, in the last 90 days, this NDP government has decided that they are going to champion business, that they are going to champion the resource sector. They’re going to champion LNG. They’re going to champion forestry. They’re going to champion mining, film. We’re going to do it all.
I think that there’s a problem when it comes to the integrity of those comments. Over seven years, to back that up with facts…. The facts are that government is bloated, big business has become small business, and small businesses, a lot of them, have gone out of business under this government.
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Now we’re looking at them to save us, when we have the opportunity to step in and support them, and this NDP government absolutely failed to do it at every single turn.
Nobody wants to see these tariffs. Nobody. But what we want to see is a government with some integrity that will stand up and actually do the right thing today, tomorrow and the next day, not because they’re shamed or they’re scared, but because it’s the right thing to do.
Amna Shah: I am pleased to rise in support of this motion, and I’ll start with a quote: “We don’t need Canada for lumber, because we have big forests that we have. We don’t need anything. We don’t need their fuel. We don’t need their energy. We don’t need their oil and gas. We don’t need anything that they have.” These are the words of Donald Trump. To our great nation, these words are disrespectful and simply untrue.
Here’s another quote: “I called him Governor Trudeau because they should be the 51st state. It would make a great state, and the people of Canada like it.” These are also the words of Donald Trump. And to me, it is no joke.
British Columbians are deeply worried about their jobs, their livelihood and their future. With his relentless taunting, his 51st state rhetoric and his commitment to impose heavy tariffs, Donald Trump has jeopardized our once prosperous relationship. With the recklessness with which he treats the global community, he has reduced Canadians to mere pawns to play with on his path to world domination.
Although the words are outrageous, hurtful and disappointing, his actions will ruin lives. Trump’s tariffs could cripple our economy, forcing workers out of their jobs and business owners out of their businesses. There is too much at stake, and this will impact us for many years to come.
We did not ask for this, and we do not want this. But we will also not stand for any of it. It is crucial for us to unite under a Team Canada approach and do what is required to protect British Columbians. This means standing side by side with leaders across this country to develop a coordinated response which maximizes our economic leverage. This includes measured retaliatory actions which strategically are targeted to industries, sectors and particular regions.
This Team Canada approach is not bound by political persuasion. It welcomes everybody to work together to protect our sovereignty and strengthen our province. We’ve gotten started on this work already, fast-tracking infrastructure projects, mine expansions and energy projects, because we know that our resources are critical to our strength as a province.
We need to reduce our dependency on our southern neighbour, who is becoming increasingly unreliable. Diversifying our economy will strengthen it for generations to come. We have to find new trading partners and strengthen the relationships we have now. We have been working with other provinces across Canada to increase interprovincial trade and reduce barriers because they too understand the importance of our partnership.
This is not a flash in the pan. This is the foundation for the future benefit of all Canadians. We simply cannot allow ourselves to be put in this situation again. We here in Canada value diplomacy, including in this House, and we encourage peace across the world. But make no mistake. We also stand up to bullies. We do not let foreign interests dictate our future, and we certainly will not let a foreign leader threaten our sovereignty.
Canadians across the country and British Columbians across this province are standing together with a show of unity and with strength. Every day, I see more families, more friends choosing to buy local British Columbian products or buying Canadian products, supporting our local businesses and our local industries.
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Like their efforts, British Columbians also expect leadership from our government to protect our economy and our local industry. That is exactly what we will do, but we have to do this together. We love our province, and we love our country and all its people. That’s why we call on all sides of the House to join us in our pointed approach to show British Columbians that we are united in defending and protecting them regardless of what the future may bring.
There is no one political side that owns the Canadian flag. There is no one political side that owns unity in this country and in this province. I urge the members opposite to come together with us to show British Columbians that we are united when it is called for. We are strong when it’s required to protect not just British Columbians, but Canadians across this country.
Peter Milobar: As we’ve heard from my colleagues that have spoken previously, of course we do not want to see tariffs, of course we do not want harm to come to our economy, and of course we do not want to have strained relationships with our friends and family and good trading partners down in the United States.
[Mable Elmore in the chair.]
All of that is true, but more than one thing can be true at the same time. What is also true is that we have a Premier with a very checkered history of taking stands on things, depending on what is the most politically convenient for him, be it, as we heard, what he used to do in support of protests against the Olympics, be it the government stance of the day about every tool in the toolbox.
Well, the Premier at the time was the Attorney General. Guess who was the one dragging the TMX through Supreme Court after Supreme Court, despite advice that it would be a failed exercise, to do nothing more than delay the project.
We saw delays on Site C because of performance politics by the NDP. We saw LNG delayed and delayed because of this government, and future phases of LNG delayed because of this government. So when the Premier talks a good game, that’s really all it is, is talk.
When the Premier now, suddenly, wants to talk about interprovincial trade…. Why has this government not talked about the committee that has existed since 2017, literally the whole time this government has been in power, of all the provincial trade ministers and the federal trade minister, that has one task: break down interprovincial trade. We have nothing to show for that.
In fact, the day before the first tariff was supposed to take effect, you wouldn’t know it, but that same committee actually met. The only reason you would know it is if you happened to go onto our Minister of Jobs’ Twitter page to see a picture she posted. So she was at the meeting. Apparently nothing happened at the meeting, because the government didn’t even inform the public, the day before a trade war, that our Trade Minister was supposed to be talking with other trade ministers about interprovincial trade.
Actions actually matter in the middle of a trade war. When you have a 23 percent tariff equivalent of interprovincial trade barriers in B.C., the second worst in the country — only Quebec is worse — here’s a thought. Maybe, while running record deficits and talking about how you’re going to grow the economy, you could have actually gotten rid of the interprovincial trade barriers to grow our economy and not run record deficits. Maybe you don’t need the president to march you to do that.
When you talk about buying local, here is one subsector of the economy that has been pleading with this government for the last several years: the craft brewing industry that has been on its knees. We are seeing them close all over our cities and towns. They have had three very simple requests. They are asking the government about a markup reduction. Can’t get an answer from government on that for years now. They are asking the government to adjust the hectolitres they produce before they hit certain triggers to put them on more of an equal footing of the big international breweries. Can’t get an answer from government on that. That wouldn’t even cost the government any money of any consequence.
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Here’s one that really wouldn’t cost the government any money. As I stand here today, they are actively removing listings and making it harder on a store-by-store basis in government liquor stores for craft brewers to access shelf space. They are not directing the stores to not have that discretion.
They can talk about banning bourbon all they want, this government. Maybe they could actually help our local producers. Maybe they could get rid of some of the ridiculous packaging requirements that they have that do nothing but add costs to craft brewing. That’s just one small segment.
The government and the Premier have talked about expediting permitting for years now. Why is this language any different? They’ve cut a deal with the Green Party to stay in power, and now, suddenly, they’re not going to have any environmental assessments. Can anyone actually believe that’s true? It is ridiculous in the extreme where we have landed.
I absolutely oppose the threat to Canada, the threat to sovereignty and the tariff war that might be coming at us. But make no mistake about it: this Premier has had years to clean up the mess and has done nothing about it to this point.
Jessie Sunner: I rise today to support the motion of my colleague from Coquitlam-Maillardville. As we all know, President Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs are unjustified, unwarranted, and they threaten every worker, every family and every business in British Columbia and across Canada. His proposed tariffs threaten hundreds of thousands of jobs across Canada, and they will significantly raise costs for consumers in both Canada and the United States.
These tariffs are simply wrong. If implemented, they will disrupt trade, hurt consumers and create instability in key industries across North America. Whether it’s tariffs on aluminum and steel or unfair duties on our softwood lumber, these tariffs are designed to undermine the strong economic partnership that has long benefited both Canada and the United States.
But here’s the thing. Trade is not a zero-sum game. Our economies are deeply interconnected. Canada is the United States’ largest trading partner, and millions of jobs on both sides of the border rely on a smooth flow of goods between our two nations.
In British Columbia, our forestry, agriculture and manufacturing businesses depend on fair access to American markets. Tariffs don’t just hurt businesses; they threaten the livelihood of the workers and the families as well. As we’ve seen for decades with softwood lumber, the United States has unfairly targeted Canada’s lumber industry with duties and tariffs. These tariffs don’t protect American workers. They only make housing costs more expensive in the United States while putting Canadian jobs and industries at risk. It’s a lose-lose situation for all of us.
We simply cannot allow the interests of one political leader in another country to dictate the future of all Canadians, now or ever. This is also why we’re taking action to diversify our economy, reduce our dependence on the United States and strengthen trade relationships with other provinces and countries.
This is also why we must have a Team Canada approach, one where government, business leaders and workers stand united against unjust tariff threats, an approach where we all come together across the aisle, putting aside partisan labels for the shared love of our country and its people. We must fight these proposed tariffs together, from coast to coast to coast, and send a strong signal that we are all united together.
If President Trump chooses to impose tariffs on Canada, we must respond strategically with targeted tariffs of our own, ones that hit key specific states where it will have the most impact and apply the most pressure on the U.S. government while also minimizing the negative effects on British Columbians and Canadians.
Canada is a major buyer of U.S. agricultural products, manufacturing goods and energy exports. By placing tariffs on goods from these specific states, states that rely on exports from Canada, we send a very clear message: if you hurt our workers and our industries, we will make sure that your states also feel the effects.
This isn’t just about economics. It’s about sovereignty, it’s about fairness, and it’s about clearly demonstrating that there are consequences for attacking Canadians and Canadian industries.
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We did not start this tariff fight. We do not want this tariff fight, but we will not be bullied into submission, and we will not back down. We will do everything we can to protect the home, the province and the country that we all love. Together, across the aisles, let’s condemn President Trump’s proposed tariffs. Let’s push back against policies that hurt Canadian workers and drive up costs for families on both sides of the border, and let’s come together as a country, as a province and as a community and make it clear that we will never, ever be the 51st state.
Harman Bhangu: Today we are discussing a motion put forward by the NDP that seeks to condemn President Donald Trump and the proposed tariffs on Canadian goods. While I understand the sentiment behind this motion, we must recognize that it ultimately is a distraction from the pressing issues that British Columbians face every day. In fact, this motion doesn’t create one job, any real solutions to the challenges we are grappling with in our province. Instead, it appears to be a politically motivated attempt to divide our economy while this province continues to struggle.
British Columbia is at a crossroads. Our industries are in crisis. The forestry sector, which has long been a cornerstone of our economy, is crumbling under the weight of this government’s mismanagement and unfriendly regulatory environment. The challenges faced by our forestry workers and communities cannot be overstated. Families are suffering as jobs disappear, and rural communities that depend on these industries are being decimated.
Instead of addressing the urgent issues, the NDP is focused on finger-pointing at President Trump, as if this will somehow alleviate the pain felt by our workers.
Let’s not forget that the Premier of this province promised British Columbians a $1,000 relief to help families coping with the cost-of-living crisis, yet when it came to the time, he took that promise away. This is a clear indication that we do not have the robust economy that he praises and has promised to this province. It is a government that can’t fulfil such a fundamental commitment. How can we expect them to effectively manage our economy or protect our workers from external pressures?
The proposed tariffs are indeed a concern, but let’s be clear. Targeting Republican states for political gain is not a strategy. That will not help British Columbians. This approach is not only misguided, but it also serves to distract us from the urgent work needed to support our industries and create jobs here at home. Rather than rallying together and finding solutions, the NDP is using this motion to engage in political theatre, hoping to shift the blame away from their own failures.
Furthermore, we must acknowledge that the real threat to our economy does not come solely from the actions of the U.S. government. The true threats lie within our borders.
We have seen the rise in drug-related issues that are tearing apart our communities, a situation exacerbated by the ineffective policies and a lack of real solutions. We need to confront the crisis of addiction and ensure that our communities are safe and thriving.
Additionally, we need to address the barriers that hinder interprovincial trade. British Columbians should not be facing roadblocks when they’re trying to conduct business within their own country.
We must work towards eliminating these barriers, fostering a competitive environment that benefits our businesses and workers. It is essential that we create a seamless and supportive economic landscape that allows British Columbians to thrive, rather than an environment of division and conflict pushed by this NDP government.
Another critical point that must be made is the need for resource development. I just did a tour across this province, went down to Cranbrook, Prince George and everywhere. I’ve seen how we have neglected the North. We have left them behind. We haven’t made a single investment in the North. And I remind you W.A.C. Bennett invested in the North and came back and helped build the Lower Mainland — something we forget. Fort St. John used to be the capital of this province.
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Once again, this motion is nothing but political theatre by this NDP government just to pit one another against each other. We all have different beliefs and everything. We all came into this House to help British Columbians, and for some reason, this government continues to keep the focus on American politics. During the election, it was never us that talked about this. It continues to be this NDP government that wants to pit everyone against each other.
The path forward isn’t about political posturing; it is about action. It’s time to build an economy that isn’t at the mercy of U.S. trade disputes, an economy that stands on its own, driven by innovation, industry, investment. That’s what British Columbians deserve, and that’s what we should be fighting for in this House.
Dana Lajeunesse: Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs present an existential threat to the economy of British Columbia the likes of which we’ve never experienced. If these tariffs do come into effect, we need to take a stand to protect our economy and, with it, the financial well-being of the people of our province.
To be clear, this is not intended to be a threat to the American people. My wife, who just last year became a Canadian citizen, was born and raised in the United States, and three-plus generations of her family, my in-laws, reside in various locations throughout the U.S. I’d be fiercely hesitant to get behind any legislation on this side of the border that has the potential to cause them any harm, fiscally or otherwise.
But the reality is that we were elected to protect the best interests of the people of British Columbia, and that is exactly what this proposed legislation is intended to do. Most, if not all, U.S. citizens consider Canadians to be their best friends and allies. Many are not even aware how potentially devastating these proposed tariffs will be to our nation and our province, and it is up to us to send them a clear message.
This is why we believe it is essential that our Republican state counterparts get the message loud and clear that we will not roll over and accept these intolerable attacks on our economic livelihood. We need to use all means necessary to persuade them to stand up and make clear to their federal leadership that this is unacceptable.
We’re still dealing with lingering supply chain challenges brought on by the recent global pandemic. We’re finally beginning to see some relief with respect to declining interest rates resulting from stabilized inflation. We’re not prepared to accept a new manufactured crisis that will surely send our economic recovery into a tailspin.
With change comes opportunity. As Canadians, we’re fully aware that we are stronger together. Our government is in the process of reducing interprovincial trade barriers, as well as expanding international markets to ensure that B.C.’s economy becomes stronger than ever, now and well into the future. We’re taking steps to diversify and expand our economy to reduce our dependency on our southern neighbours, who have until now been an economically stable ally.
Over the years, our two countries have stood shoulder to shoulder through difficult times, and we will continue to do so in the future. But at this point in our history, we need to take a stand against this unprecedented threat to our sovereignty.
We are and will continue to explore and expand opportunities, both foreign and domestic, that attract and encourage investments to strengthen and diversify our economy while protecting the environment, so that we will always remain beautiful British Columbia.
We’re fast-tracking targeted projects worth over $20 billion in the energy and mining sectors to help bolster our economy by providing well-paying jobs in various regions throughout the province.
The majority of British Columbians living today have never faced an existential threat to our way of life by a foreign adversary. But if history has taught us anything, it’s that now is not the time to be fighting amongst ourselves. Canada is a sovereign nation, and we intend to keep it as such. Therefore, we will use every tool in our toolbox to protect our freedoms.
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We would be naive to suspect that it will always be easy, but when called upon, we will always fight to honour the immense sacrifices that previous generations so willingly made for us.
Challenging times sometimes call for drastic measures, and although we did not ask for this fight, we do not intend to roll over. As proud Canadians and British Columbians, we will use every tool imaginable to avoid becoming victimized by a tyrannical leader from outside our borders.
It’s important to note that we, as Canadians and British Columbians, have done nothing to provoke this ridiculous attack on our economic well-being, nor to our sovereignty. We will do everything in our power to ensure that we will remain forever the true north, strong and free.
Sharon Hartwell: I rise today as a proud British Columbian and a Canadian.
Canada is built on hard work, free enterprise and strong communities where we stand up for one another and fight for fairness. We believe in defending our workers, industries and economy from unfair attacks, whether from Washington or at home.
This motion does nothing to actually help British Columbians. It’s empty rhetoric designed to score political points, not solve the real challenges facing our workers and businesses. We, in the official opposition, have been on Team B.C. from the very beginning. That’s why we’ve been calling for real action to strengthen our industries, not just grandstanding when it’s politically convenient. That’s why we urge diplomacy over recklessness. When this government chose overheated rhetoric, that only makes things worse.
That’s why we put forward a real ten-point plan to grow our economy and eliminate trade barriers, instead of picking political fights for headlines. It’s why we’ve been fighting to end foreign interference in our economy.
While this government puts on a show today, they’ve welcomed American money pouring into radical environmental groups that work against B.C. jobs, against our resource industries and against the very workers they claim to support.
They talk about the North strong and free. That’s where I’m from, and it’s suffering greatly. If the NDP were truly standing up for B.C., they wouldn’t just talk tough when it suits them. They would take real action to protect our economy every single day.
They would ensure fair competition for our industries by applying the same carbon tax on U.S. thermal coal that B.C. coal already faces. They would cut the layers of bureaucracy that make it impossible to do business here, and they would focus on securing our borders and ports, instead of ignoring the flow of fentanyl and organized crime that is devastating communities across this province.
We could have real solutions. We could immediately move to eliminate interprovincial trade barriers, as Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston has committed to do. Immediately advance phase 2 of Kitimat LNG. Get rid of the carbon tax. Immediately eliminate CO2 emission caps. Eliminate the requirement that LNG projects use electricity for compression.
Instead, the NDP has spent years undermining B.C.’s resource industries, attacking our traditions and even suggesting that the very name British Columbia is offensive. Now they want to act like defenders of our economy? British Columbians can see through this.
Words don’t pay the bills. Rhetoric doesn’t bring back lost jobs, and empty motions won’t make B.C. an economic leader again. This motion is nothing but a distraction. It doesn’t solve anything. It’s political posturing designed to paint those of us who actually want to strengthen B.C.’s economy.
We will not play into that game. The real opportunity here isn’t to fire off political statements. It’s to actually fight for B.C., to restore our economy, cut the red tape strangling our industries and ensure our resource workers can compete on a fair playing field. We are on Team B.C., not Team B.C. grandstanding, not a team distraction.
It’s time for leadership that actually gets results.
Debra Toporowski / Qwulti’stunaat: I want to speak in support of the private member’s motion on Donald Trump’s tariffs.
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Canadians across the country, including British Columbians, are worried about their jobs, their livelihoods and their futures. People are concerned about what tariffs will mean for them. We hear those concerns, and we’re taking action to protect British Columbians, whatever may come.
In the face of an unprecedented and unjustified threat to our economy, British Columbians are joining with all Canadians to fight back. We’ve come together to support each other and stand up for our country. We are saying with one united voice that we will never be the 51st state, not now or ever. Instead, we will take our destiny in our hands by building on our strengths.
During its first four weeks, the new United States presidential administration has taken our country on a roller-coaster ride, and we must be prepared for this to continue for the next four years. The historic bond between Canada and the United States has been strained in profound ways. Trust has been broken. It will not easily be repaired.
No matter what the future has in store, one thing has been made clear. We will not leave our future success to the whims of the unpredictable forces beyond our borders or leave people here to fend for themselves.
We are at a crossroads. The journey ahead will not be easy. No matter what Trump decides to do, we’ll be taking action to diversify our economy and become less dependent on the United States. That means finding new trading partners and strengthening the relationships we have now.
But first, we need to start at home. There is nowhere better positioned to weather this storm and come out of the other side stronger than here in British Columbia.
We know that in times of crisis, Canadians come together to support each other. Now when we are threatened with devastating and unfair tariffs, we need to put aside partisan labels and bring people together. It is important to be strategic in responding to these unprecedented tariff threats.
Americans are our friends and neighbours. Many of us have family members who live in the United States. We take the concerns about the borders very seriously. But as Trump says himself, he wants Canada to be the 51st state, and he’s using the tariffs as a leverage.
We hear it from people across B.C.: we need to stand strong for Canada and British Columbians and stand up to Donald Trump and his completely unjustified tariff threats.
B.C. is an extraordinary place. Our province has everything we need to succeed: a strong economy supported by many different industries, abundant natural resources, clean energy the world needs and our most important strength of all, the people who call this extraordinary place home. The people of B.C. are hard-working, highly skilled and resilient. This is who we are.
No matter what, we will do everything in our power to protect our communities, protect jobs, protect services and protect our national sovereignty. But we must do this together.
Jordan Kealy: The current NDP approach is punishing the people of B.C. with tax after tax and taxes upon tax, far more than any other country. The only solution that this government has offered is to decrease our way of life and put us all into poverty and despair.
Is this a war on tariffs and the economy, or is it a war of political polarization?
We need to focus on the well-being of British Columbians and not compare which leader has the biggest stick. Our job as politicians is to avoid, at all costs, engaging in a tariff trade war, especially against an ally that we rely heavily on.
I don’t mind a good fight, and I think our hockey team did a great job, but economically, the only outcome of this scenario is the taxpayers paying the ultimate price.
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In B.C. and my region, we have seen mills close due to punitive tariffs from the last President. Where was the help from the NDP for our forest sector then?
Is the NDP going to start eliminating taxes that are putting us into poverty and stop going after the Republican bourbon?
I’m completely against these tariffs, because as a farmer I am not far off from selling everything due to the increased costs. Seeing any increases just makes B.C. less attractive to do business and drives away confidence to invest in our province. When is this government going to cut taxes to help our way of life and not focus on targeting tariffs towards the right spectrum?
People are already being forced to rely on food banks just to survive and can barely pay for heat. When will this government finally put struggling families first and cancel the upcoming carbon tax increase? When is the NDP going to increase our refining capacity so we aren’t heavily reliant on the U.S. for gas, diesel, bunker fuel and aviation gas here on the coast?
When I pay my $586 natural gas bill and the gas itself is $117, everything else is fees and taxes. The carbon tax is $161. The carbon tax is more than the actual product that I use in my house. This sounds like rural communities are being persecuted for not really having any viable alternatives, and it will just get worse if we stay on this path.
We have record debt federally and provincially. We need fiscal responsibility and commitment to our taxpayers. I became a politician to best serve my region, and I’m not here to play games and waste time. My constituents need help, and they need it now. Banning Kentucky bourbon is ridiculous, and we will see possible retaliation, like a John Deere tractor double in price for farmers. How many businesses are going to go bankrupt when that kind of vengeance happens?
British Columbia and Canada have the potential to provide everything we need, all on our own, but we need to build our infrastructure and cut all the red tape to make it happen. Fixing our own supply chain is not a quick process.
Proper diplomacy has to be the answer to this scenario to stop these divisive tactics by the NDP. I’m voting for this motion, but I do not support most of it. The polarizing tone…. I feel this motion was worded to entrap support, to create an even bigger divide with our neighbour. This trick to vote for this is why politicians get a bad name. We should do better for our province and country.
I love my country, and I embrace its beauty. When Connor McDavid scored that game-winning goal, I felt pride. But I also remember, previously to that game, Canadians booing the national anthem of our neighbour. I felt shame. We need camaraderie with our neighbour, and we need to be the better example and find balance to be proud of.
Steve Morissette: This is clearly a non-partisan motion that, as Canadians first, we British Columbians must unify in support of. We nearly all have friends and/or family south of the 49th parallel. For more than two centuries, we have a history of close friendship as allies, partners in trading, science, defence, agriculture, resource industries, manufacturing, fighting wildfire, restoring power after storms and response to 9/11. You name the challenge, and we have been there for the U.S.A. and them for us. This has been a shining example for the world of what can be accomplished when nations work together for the common good.
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This threat of unjustified tariffs has awakened us. I’ll be the first to admit that we as Canadians have been complacent. Our relationship with our closest friends has been comfortable and safe. We could count on our mutually beneficial markets to sustain us and provide good incomes to the hardworking people on both sides of the border.
With the stroke of a pen, that will change dramatically to the detriment of those same hardworking people. There can be no finger-pointing. Successive governments, both federally and provincially, have worked to diversify markets with only moderate success. The reason is that for private business, the huge American market is right there. Why on earth would any business spend time and money marketing products around the world when they can sell everything they produce to their closest neighbour?
Everything has changed. Canadians across our country and British Columbians are worried for their jobs and futures. We did not start this tariff fight, and we do not want any part of it. But fight we will. We will reduce our reliance on the American market. We will work to diversify our trade with a never-seen-before urgency. There is also, finally, impetus across the country to reduce internal trade barriers.
We must grow our economy, and that is what we will do. We are fast-tracking projects, not haphazardly with reckless abandon. These projects will be vetted to ensure sustainability and environmental safeguards.
We can definitely benefit from stronger border security as well, particularly in our British Columbia ports. We will continue to push the federal government for improvements. It will take a lot of collaborative work. We need all hands on deck, right across the country. This threat demands a Team Canada approach; we must work together.
Each piece of our plan will help us get through this threat with a stronger, more independent and resilient economy. But make no mistake. It is a huge challenge to counter the loss of a market of 340 million people. We must hold our friendly American friends close and not slam the door behind us. We are hopeful this is short-lived, as Americans feel the pain of ignorant and callous tariffs levied by No. 47.
If required, our response in red states will send a strong message to those who have used their free choice to support him. Choices do have consequences. We cannot let a wannabe dictator and his henchmen insult us and disrespect our sovereignty. We cannot let him define us in our American friendship.
I could have used some great Canadian lyrics to close, but I believe that by using an American rock icon, it illustrates, while our culture is distinct and different in key ways for us, how close our friendship really is. I will close with the late Tom Petty’s lyrics — and don’t worry; I’ll spare you singing it. It goes like this:
“Well, I know what’s right
I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin’ me around
But I’ll stand my ground
And I won’t back down.”
I am fully in support of this motion by my colleague from Coquitlam-Maillardville.
Linda Hepner: I want to be clear. Conservatives have been on Team British Columbia since day one. While others now scramble to talk tough, our position and pride in our province has been principled and consistent. From day one, we have urged that diplomacy should be attempted before escalatory rhetoric. We have put forward real solutions to strengthen our industries, to protect jobs and to ensure long-term economic stability.
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Unlike the NDP, we are not afraid to call out the foreign interference that has weakened British Columbia’s economic and resource sector for years. That is why we are pushing to end U.S. money flowing into radical environmental groups determined to shut down our industries and why we have called for a tax on U.S. thermal coal to be held in trust until a fair softwood lumber deal can be reached.
British Columbians have been clear: they want a government that defends their interests, that secures their future, that ensures their prosperity.
[The Speaker in the chair.]
What they don’t need are politicians who try to rewrite history, undermine confidence in our industries and fail to stand up for our province when it matters most.
Meanwhile, the NDP has failed British Columbia at every turn. Today, they pretend to stand up for our economy, but for years, they have undermined it. They have attacked our history, our founders and even suggested that using the name British Columbia is inappropriate and offensive.
This is the same NDP government that has done nothing to stop U.S.-funded organizations from interfering in our natural resource sector, blocking investment and pushing policies that cost British Columbians their jobs.
This is the same NDP government that has stalled our resource industries, burdened businesses with their red tape, refused to take real action on border security and trade enforcement.
They have welcomed foreign-funded activists who work against our resource workers but now expect us to believe they are serious about defending our economic interests. This is hypocrisy at its finest.
When the NDP has a chance to stand up for British Columbia, they don’t. When they have a chance to challenge the interference of foreign-backed organizations, they won’t. And when they have the opportunity to make British Columbia more competitive, they choose instead to make it more difficult to do business, more costly to invest and more uncertain for workers and employers alike.
British Columbians deserve leadership that recognizes this moment for what it is: a wake-up call. Instead of relying on empty rhetoric, we need to seize this opportunity to build a stronger, more resilient province. That means securing our industries, increasing our self-sufficiency and making sure that British Columbia is never again left vulnerable to the whims of a foreign administration.
It means supporting our resource industries, not attacking them. It means prioritizing the workers of British Columbia, not special interest groups with foreign funding and political agendas. It means ensuring that when trade disputes arise, we are prepared not just to respond, but to build a province that is strong, competitive and resilient enough to thrive, regardless of political decisions made in Washington or anywhere else.
And let’s be honest. This moment is not just about trade. This is about the bigger picture. The NDP’s failures extend beyond tariffs and economic mismanagement. Their policies have fuelled a fentanyl crisis that has devastated our communities. They have allowed our ports and borders to be exploited, creating risks, not just for our economy, but for the safety of our people. While they claim to stand up for British Columbians, they have let organized crime, foreign influence and deadly substances flood into our communities.
The Speaker: Thank you, Member.
Linda Hepner: Our commitment is clear. We will always put British Columbia first. We need leadership and a government that will fight for British Columbia.
[11:45 a.m.]
The Speaker: The Chair will recognize the member for Coquitlam-Maillardville to close the debate.
Jennifer Blatherwick: I see that there are members of the opposition that do not agree with support for Team Canada, the Team Canada approach, and that is their right. As it stands in this House, we have the freedom to speak our minds. However, I would remind us all again that there is no freedom from consequence.
I also do thank many of them for echoing the steps outlined in the throne speech and showing support for the actions already underway in the province. I also would thank them for any potential support for this motion and remind them that we all had the option to make amendments to the motion today if we did not agree with the entire text.
In my first speech in the House, I mentioned that I had been fortunate to be raised by my grandparents, who lived through World War II. It allowed me to hear directly from people who understood from very close up the consequences of acquiescing to the bullying of a larger, more aggressive nation. My grandmother said that you needed to learn to identify those who, if you give them an inch, will take a mile, and they’ll walk that mile all over your back.
And not just our backs. In this House, we have secure jobs with some insulation from the enormous economic shift these tariffs threaten. The burden will be on the backs of British Columbians, Canadians, who can least afford to lose those jobs. It will be people who work in manufacturing and resources, and it will also be in grocery stores, in retail, in restaurants, in child care, the lower wage jobs that are disproportionately filled by women, gender diverse, 2SLGTBIAQ+ people, those with disabilities, new Canadians and racialized people — those who are often the least likely to have the savings and resources that will allow them to transition to another job.
The consequences will not just be economic. We know from our experiences of the pandemic that when there are job losses and tough economic times, intimate partner violence and domestic abuse rise.
There is going to be no peace in our time if we just turn our heads away. If we turn our heads away, he will step on our necks. We cannot give up on our principles to appease an aggressor. They are not looking for a compromise; they are looking for an opportunity. If we appease them, they will move the goalpost until we fall over it, and then they can step over us.
I mentioned that my grandfather was a student of history. We talked so much about what leads nations into conflict. I thank the member opposite for his quote from Diefenbaker, and I will answer him with one from Churchill. One of my grandfather’s favourite books was Churchill’s Second World War.
Churchill was a complicated man. There is so much about him that I would disagree with, but I do think he understood about standing up to unjustified threats from aggressive powers. On this he was correct: “Appeasement from strength is magnanimous and noble and might be the surest and the only path to world peace. When nations or individuals get strong, they are often truculent and bullying, but when they are weak, they become better-mannered. But that is the reverse of what is healthy and wise. In a position where an aggressor is pursuing you, an appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
This motion is not about anyone else’s actions; it is about our choices here, now, today. We did not choose this situation. We did not want it. But when we are threatened by bullies, we can’t back down. I hope we all continue to do everything we can to protect this home we love, and that each of us can vote with our conscience.
The Speaker: Members, just for clarity, the member who moved the motion has already closed the debate.
[11:50 a.m.]
The motion reads: “That this House condemns President Donald Trump’s proposed tariffs as wrong and unjustified measures aimed at threatening Canadian sovereignty and endorses the nationally coordinated Team Canada plan to respond with proportionate retaliatory action if necessary, including strategically targeting industries and regions such as projects from Republican states to maximize pressure to deter President Trump from implementing or continuing tariffs.”
You have heard the motion. All those in favour say aye.
Division has been called. Pursuant to Standing Order 25, the division is deferred until 6 p.m. today.
Hon. Lisa Beare moved adjournment of the House.
Motion approved.
The Speaker: This House stands adjourned until 1:30 p.m. today.
The House adjourned at 11:51 a.m.