Fourth Session, 42nd Parliament (2023)

OFFICIAL REPORT
OF DEBATES

(HANSARD)

Wednesday, February 15, 2023

Afternoon Sitting

Issue No. 267

ISSN 1499-2175

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CONTENTS

Routine Business

Personal Statements

J. Routledge

Introductions by Members

Introduction and First Reading of Bills

R. Leonard

Statements (Standing Order 25B)

G. Chow

S. Bond

K. Paddon

I. Paton

R. Russell

P. Milobar

Oral Questions

T. Stone

Hon. D. Eby

K. Falcon

Hon. D. Eby

S. Furstenau

Hon. G. Heyman

Hon. J. Osborne

K. Kirkpatrick

Hon. R. Kahlon

P. Milobar

Hon. D. Eby

L. Doerkson

Hon. D. Eby

S. Bond

Motions Without Notice

Hon. R. Kahlon

Orders of the Day

Government Motions on Notice

Hon. R. Kahlon

Committee of the Whole House

M. de Jong

Hon. N. Sharma

Hon. L. Beare

B. Banman

Hon. G. Heyman

R. Merrifield

Report and Third Reading of Bills

Committee of the Whole House

Hon. A. Kang

M. Bernier

Report and Third Reading of Bills

Throne Speech Debate (continued)

Hon. N. Cullen

Personal Statements

J. Routledge

Throne Speech Debate (continued)

Hon. R. Singh

Hon. N. Sharma

Hon. D. Coulter

Hon. M. Farnworth

G. Chow

Hon. B. Ralston

J. Rice


WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2023

The House met at 1:33 p.m.

[Mr. Speaker in the chair.]

Routine Business

Prayers and reflections: R. Merrifield.

[1:35 p.m.]

Personal Statements

APOLOGY FOR COMMENTS
MADE IN THE HOUSE

J. Routledge: Yesterday in the debate, I made an unfortunate reference to the Holocaust. I deeply regret it. It wasn’t appropriate, and I sincerely apologize.

Introductions by Members

Hon. B. Ralston: Earlier today, in the Hall of Honour, we made an announcement on future forest policy in British Columbia. Two of the participants are here today, and I wanted to introduce them to the chamber.

The first is Lenny Joe, who is the chief executive officer of the First Nations Forestry Council. He is a registered professional forester and a member of the Nłeʔkepmxc First Nation, actively involved in developing new businesses and opportunities in the resource sector within his territory as well as throughout Canada and the world.

I also wanted to introduce another person who spoke at the announcement, Garry Merkel, who is the co-author of the old-growth strategic review. He, too, is a registered professional forester and a member of the Tahltan Nation. He’s been actively involved in building First Nations governments for decades. His achievements and contributions are numerous, and I really don’t have time to go into them.

I do want to thank them both for joining our announcement earlier today, and I look forward to continuing our work to modernize forest policy in British Columbia.

Will the House please make both of these people welcome.

Hon. A. Kang: In the gallery today is one of my good friends, Anna Tran. She is a ray of sunshine to any room that she enters, and I really love her friendship. We share the same love for warm soup, for food, for cute animals. She works in the supply chain industry for a Vancouver-based tech company.

She’s also in the process of making Canada a permanent home through the B.C. PNP program, and she recently received an invitation to apply for permanent residence. I’m glad British Columbia can retain such a great skilled worker like Anna and make B.C. her home.

It is her first time in the Legislature, first time in the gallery today. Would everyone please make her feel very welcome.

Hon. R. Singh: Today is my husband’s birthday. For many of my colleagues who were interviewed by Gurpreet, he’s stern, very rigid. It is like people sometimes worry, going on his radio show. But for me, I can say he’s my strongest ally, my rock, and I want to wish him a very, very happy birthday.

Hon. B. Bailey: Earlier this week, our government proudly proclaimed this week as Chamber of Commerce Week. Businesses have persevered through the challenges of the last few years, and B.C.’s chambers of commerce have been relied upon more than ever. They have risen to the challenge and have ensured that our business communities have stayed strong and resilient.

That is why today, I’m excited to have three leaders join us from the B.C. Chamber of Commerce. We have Fiona Famulak, president and CEO; Dr. Greg Thomas, chair of the board; and Alex McMillan, interim director of policy. I’m looking forward to meeting with them later this afternoon to engage on how we can work together on shared priorities and continue delivering on the goals of our StrongerBC economic plan.

Would the members of the House please join me in making them feel most welcome.

Mr. Speaker: Minister of Finance. Sorry. Once a minister, always a minister, right? Minister of Post-Secondary Education.

Hon. S. Robinson: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’m having a lot more fun in this file, I have to say.

[1:40 p.m.]

I have two announcements. The first one is that apparently, it was a member of this Legislature’s birthday yesterday. I want to invite everyone to wish the member for Peace River South….

Interjections.

Hon. S. Robinson: And Peace River North. The Peaces had a birthday yesterday, so I want to wish them both a happy birthday. It’s just how things roll in the Peace. There you go.

I also would like to introduce two representatives of UBC’s Alma Mater Society, Erin Co and Mimi Neufeld, who are joining us here in the chamber. Erin is AMS’s VP of external affairs and is in her fourth year studying economics at UBC. She’s talking about perhaps a master’s degree. Mimi works for the AMS as a policy adviser. I have to say that as the Minister of Post-Secondary Education and Future Skills, their work is absolutely vital to understanding the experience of post-secondary students.

I know that these two fabulous women leaders have met with the critic across the way, and they had a really good conversation. They met with myself and the Premier and other MLAs in this chamber, and I want to thank them for their work in presenting ideas and solutions. That is an invaluable experience for all of us.

Would the House please make them feel very welcome.

B. Anderson: Joining us in the gallery today are several of our staff from government caucus.

We have Laura Parent, a research and communications officer; Devon Leathwood, a research and communications officer, originally from Kaslo, which is in my constituency; Arjin Toor, a research and communications of­ficer; Chelsea Williams, a research and communications officer; Cailin Tyrrell, a research and communications officer; Astra Lund-Phillips, a research and communications officer; Maddie Field, a senior research and communications officer; Reece Avila, a communications assistant; Hannah Harris Hope, a legislative assistant; and Cindy Tomnuk, an office coordinator.

Thank you so much for all the work you do and welcome today.

Hon. L. Popham: I have some ministry staff here who are in this chamber today. We have Jen Goad, Roger Tinney and Liz Deom. They are here specifically to watch a very, very interesting private member’s bill get tabled.

M. Dykeman: I just wanted to take this opportunity to wish a very special constituent a happy 100th birthday. Penny Schafer today turns 100, and she volunteered for the Langley Meals on Wheels program for over 40 years, delivering her very last meal at 95 years old in our community.

She wasn’t able to make it over here but is watching at home, and I was wondering if the House could please join me in wishing her a very happy birthday.

R. Leonard: I would like to introduce a number of folks who have travelled down from the Comox Valley for this auspicious day.

I would like to first introduce Mike Trask, who was a draftsman and a surveyor and the discoverer of the elasmosaur dinosaur in 1988, along with his daughter Heather. Along with him is Pat Trask, his twin brother, who is the curator of natural history at the Courteney and District Museum; Deborah Griffiths, the executive director and curator of the Courteney and District Museum; and Dan Bowen, who is the chair of the B.C. Paleontological Alliance and the chair of the Vancouver Paleontological Society. I’m very excited that they are here today to witness this day.

I also want to say thank you very much to all the support staff. Their names have already been mentioned: Cindy Tomnuk, Laura Parent, Hannah Harris Hope. It’s been an exciting ride getting to today, and I’m very excited.

May the House please join me in welcoming them all to the gallery today.

Introduction and
First Reading of Bills

BILL M207 — PROVINCIAL SYMBOLS AND
HONOURS AMENDMENT ACT, 2023

R. Leonard presented a bill intituled Provincial Symbols and Honours Amendment Act, 2023.

R. Leonard: I move that a bill intituled Provincial Symbols and Honours Amendment Act, 2023, of which notice has been given in my name on the order paper, be introduced and read for a first time.

[1:45 p.m.]

In 1988, a landmark paleontology find was discovered in my riding near the Puntledge River. Mike Trask and his daughter Heather unearthed what we now know to be an elasmosaur fossil that is over 80 percent complete. This great elasmosaur was the first of its kind found west of the Canadian Rockies. The elasmosaur is a marine reptile dinosaur that is approximately 80 million years old and speaks to the remarkable ancient ecosystems that covered the land that we now know as B.C.

In 2020, another elasmosaur was found by Pat Trask, and it continues to be a source of research and fascination for paleontologists and researchers young and old.

In 2018, the province of B.C. ran a public input session so the people of B.C. could choose a fossil to be a provincial symbol, on the recommendation of the B.C. Paleontological Alliance. The elasmosaur won with a significant margin. This bill seeks to complete this work and name the elasmosaur as B.C’s. official provincial fossil.

Fossils are a part of our heritage, our culture and our identity, and this bill will recognize their importance to British Columbia.

Mr. Speaker: Members, the question is the first reading of the bill.

Motion approved.

R. Leonard: I move that the bill be placed on the orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today.

Bill M207, Provincial Symbols and Honours Amendment Act, 2023, introduced, read a first time and ordered to be placed on orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today.

Statements
(Standing Order 25B)

RESPONSE TO
TÜRKIYE AND SYRIA EARTHQUAKES

G. Chow: We all know the earthquake that struck the Türkiye and Syria region ten days ago killed more than 40,000 people. The toll will no doubt rise as rescue efforts continue. Here in British Columbia, we are very proud of the Burnaby urban search and rescue team, who travelled to Türkiye a week ago to help. They returned home yesterday to a hero’s welcome at the Vancouver International Airport.

Burnaby is your hometown, Mr. Speaker. We’re all very proud of Burnaby and the search and rescue team.

On February 7, Canada announced $10 million in humanitarian aid to the Türkiye and Syria earthquakes. However, the Canadian government will also match eligible donations by individuals to the Canadian Red Cross, to a maximum of $10 million. The cutoff day for this matching is next Wednesday, February 22. If anyone plans to donate to Canadian Red Cross, it would be great to do it by next Wednesday.

If you’d like to donate certain goods, such as sleeping bags, tents, flashlights, headlights, sanitary wipes, baby formula and bottles, children’s and adult diapers, you can drop off the items in Vancouver at 580 Industrial Avenue near Science World or go to #helpturkeyvancouver. This is a warehouse being set up by the Canadian Turkish Educational and Cultural Foundation, the Turkish Canadian Society and the UBC Turkish Student Association. Here the volunteers collect, sort and package the items for air shipment by Turkish Airlines, under the supervision of the Turkish consulate in Vancouver.

People in my riding of Vancouver-Fraserview, if they like, can drop off goods for donation at my constituency office for the Turkish organizations to pick up. The situation in Türkiye and Syria earthquake zone is dire, and I encourage all of us to help any way we can.

HOWARD LLOYD

S. Bond: Howard Lloyd served as the Social Credit MLA for the riding of Fort George in the 31st Parliament, from 1975 to 1979.

[1:50 p.m.]

Howard was born in Turtleford, Saskatchewan, and was the fourth of 12 children. His family moved to Prince George in 1940, and Howard described that trip. “After tuning up our old 1929 Nash, we hooked up a homemade trailer, packed our belongings, camping supplies and food, and we left for Prince George.”

Howard was well known for his career in the forest industry. He started his career in sawmills, then roadbuilding, then skidding logs, created Lloyd Bros. Lumber Co. with his brothers and then, in 1960, started Howard Lloyd Logging, which was a stump-to-dump operation. In 1970, Howard and five other logging contractors started the North Central Plywood Veneer Mill.

In 1972, with the support of his wife and family, Howard entered the civic political arena and served as a Prince George alderman from 1972 to 1975. He also served as a director for the regional district of Fraser–Fort George.

In 1975, when NDP Premier Dave Barrett called a snap election, Howard decided to make the move to provincial politics, and he was elected as the Social Credit MLA for the Fort George riding.

Howard Lloyd passed away on December 27, 2022. He is survived by his wife, Margaret, his children, his grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Howard and Margaret said: “Prince George has always been a wonderful place to live, enjoy the outdoors and raise a family. We have many good friends and the support of a large family. We wouldn’t trade that for anything.”

Howard, we want to thank you for your contributions to our community, our region and our province, and we send our caring thoughts to Margaret and the entire family on Howard’s passing.

COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS IN
CHILLIWACK-KENT AREA

K. Paddon: I am very happy to be able to rise to share a little bit about some of the organizations serving Chilliwack-Kent that make such a difference in our community.

Each quarter, I have the privilege of hosting a non-profit Zoom round table, which is very well attended. These meetings have been occurring since the start of 2021. Our conversations have included how to make the sector stronger, local and provincial needs, innovative solutions and networking opportunities that allow all of us who serve our neighbours to better understand what is available and what is needed. We welcome others from Chilliwack and Kent to join us in the collaborative work.

I want to thank the current and former Parliamentary Secretaries for Community Development and Non-Profits for their participation and support of this table and the important conversations happening there.

I will take the rest of my time to share my thanks with as many of the participants as I can name that help to make our community a better place: Chilliwack Arts Council, Chilliwack Youth Health Centre, Creative Centre Society for Mental Wellness, Chilliwack Bowls of Hope, Chilliwack Community Services, Chilliwack Learning Community Society, Chilliwack Animal Safe Haven, Circles of Support and Accountability, Futurepreneur, Community Futures Fraser Valley, Streams Foundation Canada, Chilliwack and District Seniors Resources Society, Agassiz-Harrison Community Services, Ann Davis Transition Society, Agassiz-Harrison Museum, Medal Rose Society, Chilliwack Healthier Community, Stó:lō Community Futures, Chilliwack Citizens for Change, Kindness Chain Chilliwack, Chilliwack BC SPCA, Pearl Life Renewal, Salvation Army Chilliwack, Chilliwack School of Performing Arts, Chilliwack Society for Community Living, Fraser Valley Imagination Library, Chilliwack Pride, United Way, Chilliwack Hospice, Branch 295 Royal Canadian Legion, Chilliwack Independent Film Festival and Sardis Doorway.

I’m hoping I’m not missing any.

Thank you to all of my friends, to all of you who serve our community, for your voices and your advocacy.

FARMERS AND AGRICULTURE SHOWS

I. Paton: I’m happy to rise today on February 15 to celebrate Canada’s Agriculture Day. Canadians from coast to coast come together to celebrate the food we love and the people who produce it.

Canada’s Agriculture Day is an opportunity to express our gratitude to farmers for their dedication and hard work. Regardless of weather conditions and challenges, they continue to provide us with nutritious and safe food.

We have certainly seen our farmers in B.C. overcome a lot in the last few years — floods, fires, avian influenza, mudslides, the rising cost of feed, fuel and fertilizer. The list goes on.

It was so fantastic to see such a great turnout of farmers and community this year at both the Pacific Agriculture Show in Abbotsford and the Island Agriculture Show in Cowichan Valley. These events have come back bigger and better than ever, with thousands of farmers, exhibitors and vendors coming together from across the province to share knowledge, learn about the latest trends in agriculture and talk about various issues that are top of mind, going into the 2023 growing season.

[1:55 p.m.]

At the Abbotsford show, I had the great honour of meeting with farmers from around the province. At this event, the B.C. Agriculture Council honoured five leaders in B.C.’s agricultural community. Dairy farmers Hallie Jacobs and Jimi Meier were honoured with the champion of agriculture award for their support during the November 21 floods.

They also honoured longtime dairy farmer Ben Brandsema with the excellent leadership award for being a pioneer in organic dairy farming here in B.C., and Michelle Johnsrude of Chilliwack was awarded the agriculture in the classroom outstanding teacher award for engaging children at several levels, including growing food.

Lastly, they gave special recognition to the Ministry of Agriculture staffer Lonny Steward for his knowledge of the various agriculture support programs offered by the province.

This month I also went to the Vancouver Island agriculture show, which is the only agriculture trade show now serving the food and farming community on Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands. It was a great show.

These shows are so important because they bring to­gether the current issues in farming with the equipment, research, vendors and suppliers to support farmers and farm operations in B.C. We have a great farming community in B.C., and I was grateful to see the ag community come back together again, getting ready for, hopefully, a successful 2023 season.

REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE

R. Russell: It’s a perfect segue from the member for Delta South.

It’s my pleasure to stand today to share some gratitude and exciting vision that was released at that same event, the Pacific Ag Show, particularly coming under the Ministry of Agriculture with the contributions from farmers and ranchers, industry innovators, organizations and academics from across B. C. around agricultural technology and regenerative ag.

If we think about a Venn diagram of agricultural technology and one of sustainable and regenerative agriculture, the interface of those two is where this group operates. They have been working as the minister’s advisory group on regenerative ag and agritech at an incredible pace over the last three-quarters of a year or so. I have been enormously impressed with the work that they have delivered.

We talk in this place a lot about opportunities for transition and the province’s enormous potential to be leaders in creating real jobs in the transition space to meet our climate commitments. Regenerative ag is a perfect example of how people out in rural communities, with their hands in the dirt and with cowboy hats on their heads, are actually delivering those jobs that we need in terms of a sustainable shift in terms of our employment.

As the Business Council of B.C. states in their B.C.’s Low Carbon Advantage Plan, “the time is now for climate jobs and our future,” and we are in a moment of “significant opportunities to advance B.C.’s. economy and corresponding high-wage jobs in rural and urban B.C. while furthering objectives on global climate change and Indigenous reconciliation.” That’s exactly the space this operates in as regenerative ag and the opportunities that it presents.

I won’t be as effective as the member for Chilliwack-Kent, but I will try, in 15 seconds, to go through some of the names to recognize them: Glen Lougheed, John Church, Jacob Beaton, Avi Gill, Karn Manhas, Sylvain Moreno, Sean Smukler, Mike Bomford, Eva-Lena Lang, Abra Brynne, Mark Smith, Jason McNamee, Heather O’Hara, Wade Clifton, Mickey Aylard, Tristan Banwell and, last but not least, Michelle Koski.

PAT WALLACE AND
CLIFF BRANCHFLOWER

P. Milobar: “Just remember, all fish die by the mouth.” That was the first piece of advice I received as an elected official. It certainly was not the last piece of advice I would receive as an elected official from a dear friend and colleague, Pat Wallace.

Unfortunately, on the weekend, the community of Kamloops, province and country lost Pat. Pat was a true community icon in Kamloops. A lot of times we say that about people, but Pat really was. It was not just her elected work that she did on behalf of people for over 30 years in Kamloops; she was a great community advocate, and she was a true mentor — not just the politicians, but by people trying to get ahead in life, people that needed help, people that needed advice. Pat was always there.

You always knew where you stood with Pat. She didn’t always agree with you. She certainly didn’t always agree with me, but she always made sure that you were listened to, and then she stuck by her convictions.

[2:00 p.m.]

If you could convince her otherwise, you were on a winning side of an argument more often than not around the rest of the council table.

Unfortunately, as news of Pat’s passing was becoming more broadly known in the Kamloops community, we discovered that on the same day, at the same age, we also lost a former long-serving mayor of Kamloops, Cliff Branchflower. Cliff had served eight years as the mayor. Pat was a councillor with them then. They also served on council together in the ’80s. In fact, my father was on some of those councils with those two.

Cliff, again, was a tireless advocate for our community. They were both made Freeman of the City at various stages of their post-political lives. They both did a tremendous amount of work in our communities. Again, Cliff was somebody that really stuck by the courage of his convictions. It didn’t matter what your point of view was as long as you could be sure that you had thought it through. Always somebody that was very strong in his faith, in his religion, Cliff lived every day the same way in terms of that.

On behalf of the broader Kamloops community and this chamber, I just send our deepest condolences to all of their families in the Kamloops area.

Oral Questions

COMMENTS BY MLA FOR BURNABY NORTH

T. Stone: Yesterday, in this House, the member for Burnaby North, whom the Premier appointed as Parliamentary Secretary for Labour, once again made highly offensive comments, some of which she has apologized for, none of which she has withdrawn. It is never acceptable to make the comparison she made between the role and speech of the opposition and the horrors of the Holocaust.

Furthermore, her disparaging remarks about our democratic process and her belittling of the official opposition for doing our parliamentary job in holding government accountable were entirely unacceptable.

What makes this situation even more egregious is that members of the Premier’s cabinet and his caucus, including the Minister of Social Development and Poverty Reduction and the Minister of Land, Water and Resource Stewardship, actually applauded her prepared remarks and even encouraged her to continue speaking.

British Columbians find the comments made by the member for Burnaby North extremely hurtful, and they need to know that the Premier of British Columbia condemns them. My question for the Premier today is will he do that today and unequivocally condemn these words and actions and demonstrate that such behaviour has no place in his caucus, this chamber or our political discourse?

Hon. D. Eby: Thank you to the member for the question. The comments were not acceptable. The member knows they were not acceptable. She has apologized, and she will be withdrawing them in this House.

GOVERNMENT ACTION ON
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY

K. Falcon: My thanks to the Premier for doing the right thing there. I appreciate that, and I applaud it.

On another note, once again, we see a huge gap on another issue between what the Premier and government are saying and the terrible results that British Columbians are seeing when it comes to government and their outcomes. Never has this been more true than in housing.

Six years of NDP action on housing have produced the worst results in the country. The average home in Vancouver will now eat up 96 percent of a typical family’s income if they wanted to purchase a home, making it the least affordable housing market in the country.

Sadly, it gets worse than that. We actually have the most unaffordable housing in North America according to a recent report from RBC that points out that a family now needs, in Vancouver, an income of over a quarter of a million dollars just to afford a home in that city. If you’re a renter, you’re also worse off than anywhere else in the country, because rents are up over $4,000 per year under this NDP government.

To summarize, after six years and two election campaigns promising more affordable housing, NDP housing policy is an absolute abysmal failure by every metric. Given this Premier’s own disastrous record as the Housing Minister, can anyone possibly believe that doing more of these NDP government policies are ever going to actually provide the relief on housing prices and sky-high rents that British Columbians face every single day?

[2:05 p.m.]

Hon. D. Eby: Thank you to the member, the Leader of the Opposition, for the question.

The RBC report that he references is an important one. We know that British Columbians are struggling, across the province, with housing affordability issues. It doesn’t matter if you’re trying to get into the housing market or if you’re trying to find a place to rent.

That’s why our government has taken unprecedented action to address this issue — from the very most affordable housing for people living on disability, on social assistance, social housing, opening thousands of units across the province to expansion into doing work on middle-income housing for people who otherwise earn a decent income — through the HousingHub initiative.

The member knows that the RBC report talks about rising interest rates and the impact that has had on British Columbians in terms of the affordability of their mortgages, which is devastating for many families, and the impacts of global inflation that have been felt here in British Columbia, impacting our construction market.

We are taking on the housing issue head-on. The member may not recall, but when they were on this side of the House and we were on that side of the House, we insisted, over and over, that they take action on housing affordability. They said: “Don’t worry. The market is going to take care of it. Don’t worry. The market is going to take care of it.”

When we had a bill in front of this House — on the fact that we added 100,000 people to this province last year, a record growth in our population, placing a strain on housing — to compel municipalities to build the housing that we need, the opposition voted against it before they voted for it.

They need to figure out what they would do on housing. We know what we’re going to do on housing, which is everything we can to ensure affordability for British Columbians.

Mr. Speaker: Leader of the Official Opposition, supplemental.

K. Falcon: Well facts and results matter. The fact is that when I was in government, the average price of a townhome in Surrey was $450,000. Today it’s over $1 million, after six years of the NDP government. A great result.

The clock is ticking, and we’re almost at the end of the Premier’s vaunted 100 days. Instead of better results, what do we see? Nothing but vague announcements and press releases. In typical NDP fashion, none of these announcements come with any targets or any timelines.

The only progress I’ve actually seen is the Premier acknowledging their ten-year housing plan has failed in less than five years. Instead of recycling that plan for the spring, we now understand they’re kicking it over to the fall session.

Apparently this Premier needed to hire a high-priced consultant in the form of the former mayor of Victoria, Lisa Helps, who, to the best of my knowledge, had disastrous outcomes in housing policy in Victoria and, as far as I can see, hasn’t spent five minutes in any significant portfolio in the private sector — certainly not in housing, not in any other sector that I can identify.

Now, after six years, the current Housing Minister says: “In two years, we are not going to solve the housing crisis.” Eight years of excuses and delays are unacceptable.

Given this Premier’s and government’s track record, given his own track record as Housing Minister creating the most unaffordable housing in North America, will he at least acknowledge today that what they have been doing has produced none of the results that everyday British Columbians would expect and demand from a government that repeatedly makes the promises?

Hon. D. Eby: Thank you to the member for the question. This is a priority for British Columbians. Ensuring they can find an affordable place to live is important not just for them; it’s important for businesses in our province that they can find the employees they’re looking for. It’s important for communities that are trying to grow.

We announced $1 billion to support cities across the province with the growth they’re seeing and to ensure that they’re able to support the additional housing that we need. This is vital. We have to get homes built. We have to increase that housing supply.

The member is mistaken if he thinks that British Columbians don’t remember their time on this side of the House — vacant homes, unused, held by investors. We brought in the speculation tax. Do you want to know how many homes that brought back? So 20,000 vacant homes held by investors.

The member on that side of the House….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh.

[2:10 p.m.]

Hon. D. Eby: I want to hear him stand up and say that he wouldn’t repeal that tax. He has spoken out again and again against that tax that opened vacant homes for British Columbians to be rented to them. Does he stand for investors, or does he stand for British Columbians looking for affordable housing?

His government…

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Hon. D. Eby: …helped create that housing crisis. Then he went to profit from it in the private sector, and now he’s back.

GOVERNMENT POLICIES ON
FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY
AND ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE

S. Furstenau: For decades, First Nations and old-growth advocates have called for change to how forests are managed in our province. For the last several years, those calls have been echoed by three MLAs in this House — my colleague from Saanich North and the Islands, me and the MLA for Prince George–Mackenzie.

We’re delighted that the Premier has worked with Garry Merkel and the First Nations Forestry Council to implement transformative policies in the forest sector. We applaud this government for finally recognizing that until the laws and regulations are changed, we will see business as usual. Protecting biodiversity and forestry is one part of the equation in addressing the climate crisis.

The second part is to stop emitting and to stop organizing our economy around industries that are harming the planet and us. As Garry Merkel said today: “If you don’t take care of the land, it will end up killing you.” The Premier stated in an interview last fall: “We cannot continue to expand fossil fuel infrastructure and hit our climate goals.” I agree.

My question is to the Premier, and I urge him not to use CleanBC as a shield. A climate plan is meant to get us to lower emissions, not defend the growth of the fossil fuel industry. Can the Premier assure British Columbians that B.C. will not approve any more fossil fuel infrastructure?

Hon. G. Heyman: Thank you to the member for her question and her sincere concern about climate change.

I will say, however, that when our government devel­oped CleanBC with the members of the Third Party and when we presented CleanBC to British Columbians as a comprehensive plan and roadmap to reduce emissions in communities, in homes, in industry and in transportation, we didn’t develop that to be a shield. We developed it to be a solution to the climate crisis that we all face.

I’ve said in this House many times, and my colleague the Minister of Energy, Mines and Low Carbon Innovation has said the same thing. We have a plan in the roadmap. We have a clear commitment to emission reductions of 33 to 38 percent in the oil and gas sector. We have a clear commitment to reductions in other industries. We have a clear commitment to reductions in transportation and in communities and buildings.

We are working hard to develop the specifics with all stakeholders that have an interest, to show British Columbians, over the next months, exactly what steps we’ll take to put the roadmap on track to meet our targets.

Mr. Speaker: Leader of the Third Party, supplemental.

S. Furstenau: I guess I appreciate the Minister of Environment answering the question I put to the Premier and doing exactly what I asked him not to do, which was use a climate plan as a shield.

CleanBC accounted for half of LNG Canada’s phase 1 emissions. Half doesn’t even account for all of phase 1 emissions. The B.C. government has long insisted emis­sions from LNG somehow will fit into B.C.’s climate targets, but the Premier, the Minister of Environment and members of cabinet know — they know — that phase 2 of LNG Canada does not fit into CleanBC, let alone the other four LNG projects that are currently being proposed in this province.

This government uses CleanBC as a way to insulate themselves. It must come to an end, because decisions need to be made that shape the future of this province and this planet that we all live on. Having airbags in my car does not make it safe for me to drive off a cliff. Having a climate plan does not absorb a massive increase in greenhouse gas emissions. It doesn’t work that way. We need a paradigm shift in our energy sector if we have any chance of meeting our targets.

[2:15 p.m.]

My question is to the Premier. When can we expect the Premier to make a clear commitment to British Columbians that there will be no new fossil fuel infrastructure projects in this province?

Hon. J. Osborne: Thank you to the member for the question. I reiterate my colleague’s comments. We have always been clear that any LNG development must fit our conditions, and that includes our climate commitments.

Beyond that, in the future ahead of us, the plans we have, the policies we have, is the action that we’re already taking. Let’s not forget the broken system of fossil fuel subsidies the old government refused to take a look at or take any action on. We’ve tackled that royalty system head on with the first comprehensive review in nearly 30 years, ensuring that it fits with our climate goals and that it provides a fair return to British Columbians.

As a result, we eliminated the largest fossil fuel subsidy in British Columbia. As a result of this, we can redirect that funding into programs that help heal the land and support a clean energy future. This is what the member is talking about: our clean energy future.

This work hasn’t stopped. The Premier has directed me in my mandate letter to be looking at other subsidies and how we can direct that into that clean future.

I know the member is passionate about this, and I expect her…. I want her to continue to bring that passion, in the way that we all have, to collectively work together towards our climate commitments.

HOUSING LEGISLATION
AND STRATA PROPERTY AGE LIMITS

K. Kirkpatrick: The Premier hasn’t just failed to help middle-class families with housing; for Razan Talebian and her husband, they have made it worse. This is a young couple. They are expecting their first child. But instead of helping them find a home, this Premier has handed them, in essence, an eviction notice. It is the exact opposite of what has been promised by this Premier and this government.

As a direct result of the chaos that has been created through the Premier’s legislation, their strata, like many stratas across British Columbia, has now voted to make their building 55 plus, forcing this young couple to sell their home once their child is born.

Just last month, the Premier was asked directly about stratas that are voting to convert to 55 plus, and he said: “It’s not really a loophole. This is potentially actually good news.”

To the Premier, how many families are being evicted because of this ill-thought-out Premier strata chaos, and why should Razan and her husband lose their home just for starting a family?

Hon. R. Kahlon: Certainly, it’s a difficult situation for this family. It’s a situation that doesn’t happen very often, but when it does, it’s a major, major concern.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh. Members.

Continue.

Hon. R. Kahlon: When the changes were made, it was to ensure that we have more units coming online for people to rent, young people wanting an opportunity to be able to rent into buildings.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Minister will continue.

Hon. R. Kahlon: Part of the work that we’ve done…. We’ve taken advice, and we’ve taken advice from the seniors advocate. The seniors advocate urged us to ensure that 55 plus would remain available for buildings. It’s in line with the human rights code.

What I don’t understand from the B.C. Liberals…. Is this the policy they’re proposing — that they’re going to eliminate 55 plus? Is that the solution they’re suggesting here? It’s something that’s been recommended by the seniors advocate. We put that in place.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh. Members.

Hon. R. Kahlon: When they refer to a loophole, are they suggesting that they would be eliminating 55 plus?

[2:20 p.m.]

HOUSINGHUB INITIATIVE
AND RENTAL HOUSING PROJECTS

P. Milobar: Let’s look at some other failed housing initiatives that this Premier has brought forward. We’ve just heard the example around the stratas. The Premier can try to pretend otherwise, but he knows that his much-touted HousingHub model has been a massive housing flub, in fact.

We’ve raised concerns before about the Olympic villas in Merritt, which received a $17 million low-interest loan from this government. The response from the Premier didn’t quite like those questions being asked, so instead we got sent a letter that only can be summarized as admonishing and somewhat trying to intimidate any future questions coming forward.

More important than that, what this letter actually did…. It committed in black and white, signed by the Premier, then the Housing Minister, that the most expensive rent in that housing project was going to be $1,650 a month. It says it right on page 3. You can imagine the shock when we read in the news that Olym­pic villas is now charging $2,400 a month for rent, more than $750 a month more than this Premier promised in writing would happen.

It begs the question not only why did the Premier spend the 17 million of tax dollars this way, but why has there been absolutely no oversight on these types of projects to deliver what they’re actually supposed to be delivering?

Hon. D. Eby: This member stood up in this place and made some very serious allegations about this particular project previously. I wrote to him, as Housing Minister at the time, and I explained to him how every single thing he said in this place was incorrect — completely wrong. He said that we were subsidizing and that there was no increase in affordable units in the Merritt area as a result of the loan.

He was wrong then, and he’s wrong again today. We subsidized 45 of 75 units, and those 45 units are part of the HousingHub funding.

Now, it’s quite possible, for the remaining 30 units, that the rents are up. We’ve seen significant inflation. But for the HousingHub commitment, it was for 45 of 75 units.

The member…. I asked him to apologize, actually, to the developer of the project, who worked closely with the province to deliver affordable housing in the Merritt area that was badly needed. I don’t think that ever happened.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members, shhh.

Member for Kamloops–North Thompson, supplemental.

P. Milobar: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

It’s simply not the case. The Premier does not want to back up his own letter. “Affordability in these units is ensured for middle-income households in Merritt for a decade, at least.” That’s his words, not mine. He signed the letter. At the very end of it, he says: “I will leave it to you to consider appropriate next steps.” Well, that’s the next steps. Here we are today.

The problem with the $17 million low-interest loan is it didn’t stop with the rents being $750 a month more than they were supposed to be. In fact, if you’re looking for a housing project, you might want to check out Expedia or Airbnb. This is where this so-called affordable housing project is now listed, as vacation rental, for the low, low, bargain price of $250 a night or $8,000 a month in Merritt.

It’s no wonder this Premier is so quick to try to not have any more questions answered, because it’s not just this project. It’s a wide range of them.

Again, why is this Premier’s $17 million so-called affordable housing project being listed on Airbnb for outrageous prices that actually have rents $750 a month more? Where is the oversight of B.C. Housing? I guess we know why there’s a forensic audit going on.

Hon. D. Eby: I know it’s a frustration for renters across the province when they see badly needed rental housing that rents out on short-term rental websites like Airbnb. That’s why we’ve been working with UBCM and why we’ll be introducing legislation to address that very serious issue the member has raised.

I think it’s really important to recognize that in communities like Merritt, they’ve been struggling to get purpose-built rental housing constructed for a long time. The HousingHub project is about encouraging developers to build that housing and addressing some of the interest rate pressures that we’re seeing that could cause them to pull back from building that purpose-built rental housing.

The results are in. Purpose-built rentals under our government, 2022, 14,546 units.

[2:25 p.m.]

Under the B.C. Liberals, 2012, 1,948 units. That’s up 650 percent.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh.

Hon. D. Eby: Now, I am glad that the member brought that to my attention. Absolutely, we will look into that issue. But when you look at what we have done in relation to bringing on new housing across the province….

Hon. Speaker, I acknowledge we’ve got a lot more to do. But from student housing, they built 130 units; we built 7,700 beds. Housing starts….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh. Members. Members, please.

Hon. D. Eby: Housing starts. When the Leader of the Opposition was the Finance Minister, 27,465. Housing starts 2022, our government, 46,721, up 70 percent.

There is a difference between their approach to housing and ours. Theirs is about speculators and investors. Our side is about housing British Columbians.

GOVERNMENT ACTION ON
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY

L. Doerkson: Well, sadly, the answers that we’re receiving today are of absolutely no comfort to the residents of this province dealing with the rising cost of our housing. This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the housing flubs, unaffordable projects.

Take the Carrington View Apartments in West Kelowna, for example. The NDP promised they would cost no more than $1,590 per month to rent, but today they’re listed for a whopping $2,100 per month and up. That’s an increase of more than $500 monthly.

How can British Columbians have any faith in the Premier’s housing promises when he continues to fail to deliver on even the most basic commitments?

Hon. D. Eby: I’m happy to look into the member’s allegations. I’ll say this. We have allegations often raised by the opposition, especially on the housing file, and we look into them.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh.

Continue.

Hon. D. Eby: We look into them, and we will address them if they need to be addressed. That’s how our government works. But I do want….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Hon. D. Eby: I do want to underline the difference in our approaches. We just announced a $500 million fund to buy up rental buildings where tenants are at risk of eviction and, potentially, homelessness. The reason we’re doing that is there were these big corporations called real estate investment trusts buying up these properties, doing these superficial renovations, evicting people, increasing rents. The behaviour is decreasing affordability and hurting British Columbians.

Now, there’s a reason, I think, that British Columbia should know there’s a difference between this side of the House and the B.C. Liberals. That is….

Interjection.

Hon. D. Eby: The member says…. The member wants to talk about his experience with housing. He engaged….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members. Members.

Members, please. Be quiet.

Hon. D. Eby: He thinks this activity is great. He thinks it’s wonderful. The reason he thinks it’s great is that it’s exactly what he did in Calgary and Edmonton. You don’t need to take my word for it. Take his word for it.

Talking about his work with a partner: “We together set up a joint venture and started acquiring apartment buildings in Calgary and Edmonton and renovating them, fixing them up and then selling them off.”

S. Bond: One thing we know for sure: there is only one speculator that leads a party in this House. It happens to be the person sitting in the Premier’s chair, who managed to flip his condo — for quite a substantive profit, I might note.

[2:30 p.m.]

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members. Members. Only one….

Members, let the member ask a question. One at a time. Obviously….

Members.

The member will continue.

S. Bond: I’m happy to point out that that occurred just before the speculation tax was actually enacted here in British Columbia.

Let’s also correct the record, for the Premier’s sake, on a few things. First of all, we spent $5 billion on housing, while this Premier, as the Housing Minister, promised to build 114,000 affordable homes. Guess what. Twelve thousand are open today out of those 114,000.

By the way, student housing doubled under our government. The Premier might….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Shhh. Members.

Members. Members.

S. Bond: The Premier might think that’s funny, but what we know British Columbians understand…. Six years, two terms, and under this Premier’s leadership as the Housing Minister, it has been nothing but an abysmal failure.

Let’s just do a quick summary for the Premier. His housing flub rents are turning out to be hundreds of dollars a month more expensive than he promised. De­velopers are getting millions of dollars to list affordable housing on Airbnb. The strata chaos caused the eviction of young families because of this Premier’s half-baked legislation. The Housing Minister had to delay his recycled housing plan until the fall, just adding to a pile of broken promises. It is absolutely no wonder that middle-class families in British Columbia have zero faith in this Premier to deliver on a housing promise.

Will the Premier just get up today and finally admit that he is part of that problem when it comes to the affordability crisis, and it has exploded under his watch?

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: The question has been asked. Let’s hear the answer.

Hon. D. Eby: You know, I’m pleased to hear that the member was excited about doubling the amount of student housing from — what? — I guess 65 to 130. We built 7,700 student beds.

We do have a serious housing issue. We have created an economy that works for everybody, that’s attracting people from other provinces, from other countries around the world in record numbers — 100,000 people last year. We’re setting records in the first two quarters of this year because people are excited to live in B.C. But we have to build housing for them.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members. Members, don’t get excited, please.

Hon. D. Eby: I make absolutely no apologies for changing strata rules to make sure that people can rent out vacant units. That’s an important thing. When you have a housing crisis, every single scrap of housing counts.

But I do take some exception to the member’s suggestion around speculation in real estate. I mean, their Housing critic flipping houses. The Leader of the Opposition…. I want to….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members. Members. Your time to ask questions is over.

Members. Members.

Hon. D. Eby: Like so many British Columbians, when my wife went back to school, our family sold the condo to help pay for her tuition. We used that condo when our first child was born, when I was working here, so that we had a place where she and our new baby could be while I was working as an MLA. That’s the condo flipping that they’re talking about, just so we’re clear.

But here’s the condo flipping, here’s the apartment building flipping that I’m talking about. The Leader of the Opposition, in his own words: “So we went in there, and we acquired some cool buildings and did some renovations. I still own some of my inventory from way back when, and it performed very well over the years. I refinance it all the time. It’s been great.”

[2:35 p.m.]

We do have different perspectives on our side of this House and that side of the House. We stand up for renters. We stand up for people looking for affordable housing. We stand up for people with decent jobs looking for a place to live.

We will keep doing that work. We’ll hold municipalities to account. We will hold investors and speculators to account, short-term rental companies to account. We’ll do that work. The other side needs to figure out what they would do.

[End of question period.]

Hon. R. Kahlon: I seek leave to move a motion to change the membership of the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, Fish and Food.

Leave granted.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members, can we have some quiet, please?

Motions Without Notice

MEMBERSHIP CHANGE TO
AGRICULTURE, FISH AND FOOD COMMITTEE

Hon. R. Kahlon: By leave, I move:

[That Coralee Oakes replace Ellis Ross as a Member of the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, Fish and Food.]

Motion approved.

Orders of the Day

Hon. R. Kahlon: I call Motion 16 on the order paper.

Government Motions on Notice

MOTION 16 — POWERS OF
AGRICULTURE, FISH AND FOOD COMMITTEE

Hon. R. Kahlon: I move Motion 16, which outlines the terms of reference for the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, Fish and Food, of which notice has been given in my name on the order paper.

[That the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, Fish and Food be empowered to examine carbon sequestration and related technology in British Columbia’s agricultural sector and make recommendations with respect to:

1. Opportunities to increase carbon content in agricultural soils in British Columbia.

2. Supports for British Columbia’s agricultural technology sector as they relate to carbon sequestration.

3. Supports and incentives for encouraging the use of made-in-B.C. agricultural technology innovations to enhance carbon sequestration.

That, in addition to the powers previously conferred upon Select Standing Committees of the House, the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture, Fish and Food be empowered to:

a. appoint of its number one or more subcommittees and to refer to such subcommittees any of the matters referred to the Committee and to delegate to the subcommittees all or any of its powers except the power to report directly to the House;

b. sit during a period in which the House is adjourned, during the recess after prorogation until the next following Session and during any sitting of the House;

c. conduct consultations by any means the Committee considers appropriate;

d. adjourn from place to place as may be convenient; and,

e. retain personnel as required to assist the Committee.

That the Committee report to the House by February 29, 2024, and that during a period of adjournment, the Committee deposit its reports with the Clerk of the Legislative Assembly, and upon resumption of the sittings of the House, or in the next following Session, as the case may be, the Chair present all reports to the House.]

Motion approved.

Hon. R. Kahlon: I call committee stage debate on Bill 3, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act.

Committee of the Whole House

BILL 3 — MISCELLANEOUS STATUTES
AMENDMENT ACT, 2023

The House in Committee of the Whole on Bill 3; S. Chandra Herbert in the chair.

The committee met at 2:40 p.m.

On clause 1.

The Chair: All right, Members. Let’s call this committee into session.

M. de Jong: I see the Attorney sitting all by her lonesome self over there, and a myriad of staff, but I think I indicated that my question on the first clause would be procedural in nature.

I just wanted to ask this. What has been done here I think makes sense. The OIC is dated, which this clause 1 refers to, April 12, 2022. The Statute Revision Act that we are relying upon….

I suppose, just to put on the record, this is a mechanism that was created to correct, by regulation, typographical errors, cross-referencing errors that someone, usually leg. counsel, comes across.

The OIC that made this correction is dated April 12, 2022. The Statute Revision Act, in section 12(2), says that: “Unless confirmed by the Legislature, corrections made by a regulation under this section cease to have effect after the last day of the next session of the Legislative Assembly after the regulation is made.” Would the time for this legislative correction to have been made have been the fall session? Has a gap inadvertently been created?

The regulation was done in the spring, April 2022. The House then adjourned and came back for a sitting in the fall. Is the regulation still in effect or…? Because the Statute Revision Act is pretty specific about when the correction must come before the House.

Hon. N. Sharma: Thanks for the question. I’m going to get some information for you on that.

Can I just ask for a five-minute recess?

The Chair: Okay, the request has been made for a five-minute recess. I think the expectation was it would be an easier question, but there’s going to be some staff coming that we will need.

Okay, so we will take a five-minute recess.

The committee recessed from 2:43 p.m. to 2:47 p.m.

[S. Chandra Herbert in the chair.]

Hon. N. Sharma: I want to give thanks to the member for the question. I want to give him a full answer, and I’m asking to stand the clause down for now. After, we’ll go on to section 2.

The Chair: We will be standing down clause 1 and, I believe, now moving on to clause 2.

Clause 1 stood down.

On clause 2.

Interjection.

The Chair: Sorry, I believe….

If you’d like to, yes. Before we move on, we will recognize the minister for introducing the staff, and moving from there.

Hon. L. Beare: Thank you, Chair, and thank you to the member for allowing me some opening remarks here. I’d like to give a detailed description of where we’re at today, which will help formulate the member’s questions.

To begin, I do want to acknowledge the staff that I have here with me. We have CJ Ritchie, the associate deputy minister and government chief information officer; Charmaine Lowe, assistant deputy minister of corporate information records management office; and Colleen Rice, executive director, strategic legislation and policy branch.

The goal of this amendment, and why we’re here today, is to restore coverage of the act to the independent officers, which were inadvertently omitted by a drafting error during the restructuring of the bill in February 2021. Clause 2 will address that error that was introduced into the Freedom of Information and Privacy Protection Act in 2021 due to the inadvertent and unfortunate effect of excluding most of the records of the independent officers of the Legislature.

Independent officers of the Legislature include the Ombudsperson, Auditor General, Human Rights Commissioner, Information and Privacy Commissioner and several other important oversight offices. A draft of this amendment was provided to the Information and Privacy Commissioner, who is supportive of the amendment.

[2:50 p.m.]

To begin, I’d like to provide some background and context to the error that we are here to fix. Section 3 of the act is an introductory section which specifies what records the act applies to and, in some cases, how the act applies to that record.

For background, the act has always applied to the records of the independent officers of the Legislature, but it did so in a very specific way. For example, the access-to-information, or FOI, provisions of the act only applied to the administrative records of the officers, not their operational records. In other words, the records relating to an independent officer’s investigations or audits were not covered by FOI, but the officer’s HR and finance records were covered.

As part of the 2021 amendments, section 3 of the act was significantly restructured to provide better clarity on the application of the act. Paragraphs were reordered, so that the application of the act to employees was in one paragraph, the covered records in a second paragraph, and the records excluded in a third paragraph, for example,

While this restructuring did provide better clarity and brought all the application-related provisions into one section of the act, it also unintentionally disrupted the specific manner in which the act applied to the independent officers. As part of the reordering of section 3, introductory words like “subject to” were dropped, which had the unintentional effect of excluding all the independent officers’ records of coverage by FOI, rather than just their function-related records.

To correct this error, Bill 3 will reinstate this clarifying language, clarifying that despite the exclusion of the independent officers’ functional records from FOI, other provisions, such as privacy, whistleblowing and offences still apply to these records. The correction will also ensure that FOI once again applies to the administrative records of the independent officers — the goal being to restore coverage of the act to the independent officers to what it had been before this error was introduced in 2021.

With that, the member and I always love our quality time together here in the House, and I am happy to take any questions the member has on restoring the coverage to the independent officers.

B. Banman: As I said to the minister once before, if this is quality time, we need to have, probably, a better definition of what “quality time” actually is.

I always do enjoy being given the opportunity to ask the minister, as the opposition, on behalf of the citizens of British Columbia…. In part, what the minister has put forward to clean up is actually why we do ask questions: to look for errors and/or omissions that were not intended and were overlooked. I do thank the minister for clarifying that. That’s very helpful.

One of the questions I have and that has been of concern is with regard to disclosure if it is outside of Canada. I’m going to read it, at section 33.1. Personal information may be shared outside of Canada if it is in accordance with the regulations set by the minister.

Would the minister care to share what those regulations would be? What penalties would be involved in case it was disclosed inappropriately? Could she share that, and what the amounts of those penalties could amount to?

[2:55 p.m. - 3:00 p.m.]

Hon. L. Beare: I thank the member for the question. I want to reference the member…. The very simple answer to this question is that these subsections that the member is referring to applied before the act was amended in 2021 and are not being amended or changed now, so that coverage still remains. What we are doing is restoring coverage to the independent officers.

The member and I are going to have ample opportunity coming up in estimates to spend hours and hours of more quality time together, where those kinds of questions are appropriate for discussion. This amendment is discussing the return of coverage for the independent officers.

I do look forward to a very spirited debate with the member during estimates on this.

B. Banman: I noticed that in one of these, one of the updates is to ensure that information released through an FOI does not reveal that a child is in care or who made the report for the protection of that child. I would think both sides of the House would agree on that, or did I read that wrong? I may have read that wrong.

The one question I do have…. Really, it’s housekeeping. I don’t have a lot really for you, which you’ll be happy to know. The legislation also adds a new section (4.1), which says that the sections above apply to public bodies. Would the minister be so kind as to give an example of a few of the public bodies that would be included in that?

Hon. L. Beare: Thanks to the member for the question. The Auditor General for Local Government — that office was shut down, so we have inserted this clause to make sure that the records are available through FOI that are being held at the Ministry of Municipal Affairs.

B. Banman: I understand the look I got from the minister earlier, and I do apologize. In my haste on the notes, the FOI with regard to children actually applies to the Attorney General, not to the…. But it is within FOI.

As I said before, this is simple housekeeping. At this time, I have nothing further, and I look forward to long, lengthy debates when we get into estimates. I do appreciate the minister’s time.

Hon. L. Beare: I thank the member for the question. I always look forward to our great conversations.

I will ask for a five-minute recess while we reset to another ministry in the next….

Oh, you’ve got to do your passing. Sorry.

Deputy Speaker: I do have to ask if people want to pass this clause.

Clause 2 approved.

Deputy Speaker: We will take a short recess as we reset for the next minister. Let’s say, hopefully, two minutes — a two-minute recess.

The committee recessed from 3:04 p.m. to 3:11 p.m.

[S. Chandra Herbert in the chair.]

The Chair: Thank you, Members. We will now resume the committee meeting.

Hon. L. Beare: We ask to stand down the other clauses and move to clause 11, for Health.

The Chair: So standing down clauses 3 to 10?

Sorry. I see the member for Abbotsford West.

M. de Jong: Sorry. I think the minister just requested….

If you go back to the second reading remarks that led to this bill being referred here, as I always do on these bills, I laid out for the Attorney General specifically the questions we were going to ask. The Attorney General responded with thanks and said the ministers would be here to answer those questions.

There are only four of them. It’s a 16-section bill, and somehow this seems to elude the government to be in a position to answer some basic questions about a piece of legislation that they have introduced.

We actually want to do the work. The next section is section…. We’ve already stood one section down. We’re now on section 3. We’d like to get to work doing the bill.

Is the minister going to be here or not to answer the questions?

Hon. L. Beare: Absolutely. The minister is going to be here and looking forward to the spirited debate. If the member would like to continue at the moment, we can go at clause 11, if we would like to stand down 3 to 10. Happy to go on clause 11 at the moment.

M. de Jong: The opposition consents to the passage of clauses 11 and 12.

Clauses 3 to 10 inclusive stood down.

Clauses 11 and 12 approved.

Hon. L. Beare: I ask for a five-minute recess.

The Chair: We will be in recess. We are just waiting for the ministers responsible. This committee is in recess.

The committee recessed from 3:13 p.m. to 3:15 p.m.

[S. Chandra Herbert in the chair.]

The Chair: I’ll draw the committee back into order.

Hon. G. Heyman: I look forward to taking questions on our clauses in the Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act. My apologies for the crossed signals about being up here in time.

Clause 3 approved.

On clause 4.

R. Merrifield: What kind of offences or penalties currently exist under the Ecological Reserve Act?

Hon. G. Heyman: Just for clarity, we are on clause 4 now. Yes.

The answer is there are currently no penalties other than what we could achieve by going to court. There are no administrative monetary penalties currently, which is why we’re bringing this amendment forward.

R. Merrifield: So then, understanding that there are no current penalties, what are some of the kinds of penalties that will likely be forthcoming under the new section of “administrative penalties”? I’ll just tag this onto this question in the interest of expediency: what kind of dollar amounts, then, will be considered as penalties?

Hon. G. Heyman: The monetary amounts will be established by regulation, and that will follow some consultation. They will address unique circumstances that may exist with respect to the particular offences. For instance, we’ll look at whatever financial benefit might have been obtained by somebody who violated or trespassed.

We also want to make sure the administrative monetary penalties serve as an adequate deterrent. We will use, generally, as a model other scales of administrative monetary penalties that exist under other pieces of legislation — for instance, the Environmental Management Act — but ensure that they’re tailored to the kinds of circumstances that would occur in terms of violations of the act that we’re concerned with here in parks and ecological reserves.

[3:20 p.m.]

We will, of course, as I said, be consulting about that as they are in development before finalization.

R. Merrifield: If I’m to understand, currently these vio­lations would be pursued through the courts or through the legislative bodies. My question to the minister is: how many court cases would currently be underway in any given calendar year, and for what amount of claim would those be currently underway for?

Hon. G. Heyman: It’s a difficult question to answer because there were no court cases in 2022 or, as far as we can recall, in 2021. There have been some back in time, but the reason that there aren’t a lot is because the test to go to court is very different.

As the member for Abbotsford West, I’m sure, will know, for Crown prosecutors to agree to proceed with a charge, there has to be a reasonable or high likelihood of success, and the court tests to be successful in a prosecution are high, much higher than they would be for an administrative monetary penalty. That is why administrative monetary penalties are widely used for offences under a range of acts. Of course, we won’t be removing the ability to go to court, but it will be reserved for truly serious cases and offences.

R. Merrifield: To the minister: how many, then, of these administrative penalties would you be expecting to be given in a calendar year?

[3:25 p.m.]

Hon. G. Heyman: There are very few violations under the Ecological Reserve Act because there are fewer of them. There are more under the Park Act.

I think something like 100 violation tickets were issued last year. We would expect the penalties to be far, far fewer than that, because in many cases, the ticket is appropriate as a warning, there wasn’t significant damage, and people who receive the ticket get the message. We also expect that the fact that penalties are an option that people could now be subject to will give, hopefully, some people pause to think about whether it’s worth taking the risk for some financial advantage that they could lose, plus.

Generally we would expect…. It’s hard to put a number, but it would certainly be significantly less than half of the 100 number that applied to tickets.

R. Merrifield: Thank you to the minister for that answer. Given that this is meant to be a deterrent, what sort of awareness or education campaigns will be undertaken or are being planned to make the public aware of these new penalties that will be able to be rendered?

[J. Tegart in the chair.]

Hon. G. Heyman: In answer to the member, the penalties for which administrative monetary penalties would apply are already offences, and they’re already known. As we’re developing the penalty schedule, of course, we’ll be consulting.

Among those who will be consulted significantly would be permit holders and stakeholders who regularly use parks and conduct activities in parks, some of which could result in a potential violation. This is primarily the target audience, and we will certainly let them know of the existence of the provision for penalties.

We probably will do some very small public awareness campaign as part of an announcement, but we’re not planning a major, wide campaign. We don’t think one is necessary, because this would primarily be directed at people who hold park use permits or do some form of permanent activity within the park.

Obviously, one of the things that we’re trying to prevent is people who conduct economic or industrial activity adjacent to a park and who may transgress the borders of the park. But on a case-by-case basis, we would want to make sure they’re aware of what the boundaries are, what the offences are and the penalty schedule.

R. Merrifield: What would be the amount of expected penalties that would be coming in? Could the minister tell us what the moneys in the park enhancement fund, which these penalties will be going into, will be spent on?

[3:30 p.m.]

Hon. G. Heyman: The money that would go into the park enhancement fund would be used to defray any expenses involved in enforcement. That monitors and, in some cases, will lead to penalties. It can be used to repair any damage or remediate any damage that has been done.

We don’t expect that there will be leftover funds after that, but the changes to the bill do not prevent money collected from being used for any other purposes that the fund can be used for, which is, essentially, to enhance park facilities.

R. Merrifield: I’d love for the minister just to briefly talk through a little bit on the compliance agreements.

What is the process for entering into a compliance agreement? Is it just offered automatically, as an option, if a person or corporation has received an administrative penalty? Is it something that has to be pursued by that person or corporation through legal representation? Or will these compliance agreements be just offered? Then also, how are they going to be able to be amended or extended due to extenuating circumstances?

[3:35 p.m.]

Hon. G. Heyman: We would be unlikely to. In fact, I can’t actually think of a circumstance where we would seek out a compliance agreement.

But if we have found an infraction and issued or are considering a penalty and the offender comes and says, “I have a plan to fix the damage that I caused. I regret it. Here’s what we will do at our cost,” and that fixes the problem, we would consider that. That’s why the clause is in the act.

Clauses 4 and 5 approved.

On clause 6.

R. Merrifield: The minister has already mentioned some of the offences or penalties that are currently under the Park Act in terms of violation tickets that are issued — approximately 100 a year.

Perhaps the minister could offer what kinds of penalties these are right now. Are there any new ones that would be forthcoming under the new section of administrative penalties? Just what sort of dollar amounts are we looking at on these?

Hon. G. Heyman: Currently, under the Park Act, tickets can be issued in a value that ranges from $58 to $575. That would cover things such as illegal fires or illegal camping. What the changes will allow is administrative monetary penalties to be applied to those violations.

Again, the schedule of that would be set through regulation following consultation. It will also allow the application of administrative monetary penalties to failure to comply with the term and condition of a permit in the park or an order. I’ll use as an example illegal logging or harvesting of firewood.

Clauses 6 to 10 inclusive approved.

Clauses 13 to 16 inclusive approved.

Clause 17 approved.

[3:40 p.m.]

Hon. L. Popham: I’d like to call for a five-minute recess.

The Chair: We’ll be in a five-minute recess — five min­utes precisely.

The committee recessed from 3:42 p.m. to 3:44 p.m.

[J. Tegart in the chair.]

The Chair: I call the committee back to order.

On clause 1 (continued).

Hon. N. Sharma: I want to thank the member for the question. I have an answer for him right now.

Interjections.

Hon. N. Sharma: I can’t use my phone…. I don’t have it printed off. This is my first time in committee. I apologize.

The regulation was made April 12, 2022. Section 12 of the Statute Revision Act gives until the last day after the next session for confirmation. This is the next session, so we have until May to confirm.

Clause 1 approved.

Title approved.

Hon. N. Sharma: I move that the committee rise and report the bill complete without amendment.

Motion approved.

The committee rose at 3:45 p.m.

The House resumed; Mr. Speaker in the chair.

Report and
Third Reading of Bills

BILL 3 — MISCELLANEOUS STATUTES
AMENDMENT ACT, 2023

Bill 3, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 2023, reported complete without amendment, read a third time and passed.

Hon. L. Popham: I call committee on Bill 6.

Committee of the Whole House

BILL 6 — MUNICIPALITIES ENABLING
AND VALIDATING ACT (No. 5)

The House in Committee of the Whole on Bill 6; J. Tegart in the chair.

The committee met at 3:49 p.m.

On clause 1.

The Chair: I will call the committee to order. We are dealing with Bill 6.

Hon. A. Kang: I’d like to first thank members of the opposition for this to be very interesting conversation on my very first bill as the Minister of Municipal Affairs.

I’d also like to introduce the staff that I have with me here today: my deputy minister, Okenge Yuma Morisho; the executive director of the policy, research and legislation branch, Kara Woodward; and, as well, the manager of the policy, research and legislation branch, Danielle Lukovich.

[3:50 p.m.]

I’d also like, once again, to thank the member of the opposition for being here today.

M. Bernier: I’ll thank the minister as well. I thank the minister’s staff. They probably are going to spend more time walking in and sitting down in the chamber than they actually will spend in answering questions, but I think it’s just important. The minister, I know, in her opening comments on section 2 highlighted, basically, the need for this piece of legislation.

As mentioned, I’m filling in for my colleague from Penticton, on his behalf, just making sure that we cover this off. Again, I just thank the minister.

Just quickly looking through the bill, obviously there’s nothing in here that’s contentious. If I understood the minister correctly in her opening remarks, and I’ll give her a chance to clarify, it sounds like this piece of legislation had been canvassed with the local governments in the area. There were no objections, I believe. I’d also thank the minister’s staff for the quick briefing that we had on this.

Maybe the minister can just clarify for the House. This is obviously a request, ask, need of the federal government for this piece of land, understandably — an extension, as we’ve talked about. But if she can confirm just the quick process of the need for that and then the requirements of consulting with local governments and First Nations. Was that all met before it was brought to the House?

Hon. A. Kang: Yes. It was a requirement of the federal government.

As well, we did consult with local government, the regional district of Okanagan-Similkameen, and there were no objections. As well, we did consult with the 21 area First Nations, through notification letters explaining the proposal as well as by follow-up emails and follow-up phone calls.

The First Nation that was cited as having primary responsibility for the territory overlapping with the St. Andrews development identified the White Lake area around the observatory as a highly significant cultural area. They expressed support for restrictions on development on the White Lake area and interest in future engagement on outcomes.

Clause 1 approved.

On clause 2.

M. Bernier: When we talk about the termination of this — again, thanks to the minister for the briefing from her staff — it was explained that through this piece of legislation, in this section here, I guess, and as we’re going forward with these changes, it won’t have to come back for legislative extensions at the end of 2034, because we’re doing a ten-year extension and future extensions will be able to be made through OIC from future governments after 2034, if that’s correct. Did I understand that correctly during my briefing?

I see a nod from the minister, so she doesn’t have to get up. I just wanted to make sure that we got that on the record for that.

Through that, one question I have is: what if there are technological changes? How is that thought through? Obviously, this piece of legislation is around protecting a zone around the federal use of that land there, and it’s because of the interference that could come through technology. What if technology changes over the next ten years? Is there a chance in here for zoning changes through the regional district? Is it going to be requiring a legislative or OIC change for a different buffer zone?

Obviously, I’m trying to understand this, if the minister can appreciate, not understanding the full use of that land and how the federal government uses it in this observatory. Just trying to cover that off. What if changes are needed in the next ten years? How does that process work?

[3:55 p.m.]

Hon. A. Kang: The regulation for radio frequency interference is within the jurisdiction of the federal government. So we are taking cues from the federal government, and we feel that perhaps ten years allows them time to look and see what they need to make changes to.

We do encourage the federal government to explore new or existing mechanisms to more effectively manage RFI levels, both regulatory and non-regulatory. Technology has already changed significantly since a land use contract was created in the 1970s, with our microwaves and our cell phones and our TVs.

This is an imperfect tool, but it is the only local government land use tool that limits development, which means use of technology by humans, over the long term.

Clauses 2 to 6 inclusive approved.

Title approved.

Hon. A. Kang: I move that the committee rise and report the bill complete without amendment.

Motion approved.

The committee rose at 3:58 p.m.

The House resumed; Mr. Speaker in the chair.

Report and
Third Reading of Bills

BILL 6 — MUNICIPALITIES ENABLING
AND VALIDATING ACT (No. 5)

Bill 6, Municipalities Enabling and Validating Act (No. 5), reported complete without amendment, read a third time and passed.

Hon. L. Popham: I now call return to debate on the throne speech.

[4:00 p.m.]

[J. Tegart in the chair.]

Throne Speech Debate

(continued)

Hon. N. Cullen: By the clock, I’m continuing on from yesterday’s interrupted conversation with respect to my response to the Speech from the Throne. For colleagues that weren’t here, it was somewhat of a disjointed affair as I tried to be respectful of the Chair and the end of the day and the proceedings that we follow towards the end of the clock.

I had outlined, just very briefly, the perspective of those of us that come from the northwest, which I represent as the representative for Stikine in this place. I try to consistently take that lens and apply it to the goings-on of this august chamber, which can feel very far away, as you would know as well, Madame Speaker, from some of the smaller, more remote communities that some of us represent. Yet what does happen in this place has an inordinate effect on the lives of British Columbians in both big cities and small.

The throne speech, again, as I started to talk about yesterday, was to take a snapshot of a moment in time, which they always do — where we are as a province — as well as, importantly, lay out some steps and priorities that the government has identified. The moment in time, of course, is — I know we’re all tired of talking about it, but it’s not tired of us — coming out of the global COVID pandemic and all of the many effects that that had upon us as a society and our economy, certainly our health care system.

I was very encouraged to see moves by our government to enhance, particularly, rural and remote health care supports, getting more teachers trained, more doctors trained and facilitating the ease with which those who are qualified to practise medicine, to be nurses in our province but live and were born away, their ability to come and practise medicine and health here. I don’t know what, in my region — I don’t know about yours, Madam Speaker — we would do without foreign-trained doctors and nurses. That’s been many years now.

Yet our wait times, coming into British Columbia in particular, are not amongst the best. It takes very long. In a sense, we are in a competition with other jurisdictions — other provinces, certainly, but other countries around the world. When the United States, the U.K., Australia and others have a third or two-thirds the wait time that we do in order to apply and then come into our country and practise the professions that they’ve trained in, we lose out. People move on. They don’t wait.

With respect to…. The other aspect is being in such an inflationary environment. Global inflation has caused the price of just about everything to go up. Certainly, when a family goes to the gas station to fill up to be able to move around, buy food, the cost of living has incrementally and consistently been on the rise.

The capacity for people to refinance their mortgage, to get a first mortgage, and the price of borrowing, affects and cascades not just for those in the housing market but right across industry and businesses. The cost of raising money has become more expensive for the individual and our economy.

[4:05 p.m.]

I was looking at inflationary rates in the U.K., which are just a little north of 10 or 11 percent right now. Ours was hovering just a little bit above about half that, which is still impactful, but we know this phenomenon has happened, of course, in poorer countries around the world, to devastating consequences. We have impacts here. It is always good and prescient to look around the world to see what that impact has.

The cost-of-living piece I want to speak to in a minute, because in the throne speech, we talk about some of the measures that have been done and some of the measures British Columbians can look forward to.

I had a moment. My ICBC renewal came through the other day, just last week when I was home in Smithers, where I live. I opened it up, and I don’t know about you, Madam Speaker, but there have been many times in my life where opening up a thing like a car insurance renewal is done with some dread to see what my new assessment is, because it’s going to be more, going to be expensive, and it’s going to be painful.

I, in a sense, didn’t have to look at the figure because I knew what it was going to be, once I remembered that the rates had been lowered and then frozen for not just this year but for next year as well. That’s real money and consequences for people who are trying to make ends meet, that there’s some, at least in this small way, certainty over what the cost of living is going to be with respect to ensuring their vehicle or their kid’s vehicle to stay on the road.

We know — well, we know; I’m not sure all British Columbians know — that this government brought in the largest tax cut, I believe, in our province’s history, for the middle class when we eliminated MSP premiums. Again, reflecting and not paying attention enough, I suppose, when I got a strange letter from MSP on something else, it had an invocation of some past traumas, I suppose, where I thought that immediately I needed to phone to find out what I owe.

It sounded quite daunting, and I phoned and said: “How bad is it?” This is going back a year now. The very nice woman on the other line…. She has a terrific job now, I think, because what she says each and every day is: “Oh no, you don’t owe anything on your MSPs. You’re fine. We were adjusting for your address, just making sure that your address is correct.”

What a wonderful job to have — to help confused people like me who are phoning out of fear, suspecting that there’s some great bill and pain coming, and being able to say: “No. A decision was made. In order to have the health care coverage that you need, it has been covered through your basic taxes.” And we move on from there.

We know the other measures, the affordability measures, when it comes to removing the tolls, when it comes to child care…. I did a quick bit of math, and I think this is important, thinking about this direction next for the government. The average family of four living in the northwest where I live, with one child in child care, was saving just a little north of $14,500 a year, this year and every year, because of decisions that were taken in this place, that were taken by the previous Finance Minister and this government and cabinet.

That’s $14,500 after-tax money, which, as you know, if it were given in wages or was in a direct cheque, it would be much, much higher. And $14,500 for the families I know is an enormous difference in terms of the options and the choices that are available to families, because you’re not as close to the wire as you ought to be.

We’ve all heard the statistics. Canadians are…. This surprises us, I think, about ourselves, but we are a heavily indebted nation. Our current debt rate, the individual debt rate we carry as Canadians, is far higher than our American, British or French counterparts, yet we sort of see ourselves as small-c conservatives when we think about money — that Canadians are not high risk-takers, not heavily indebted people. But the fact of the matter is that’s not true, and we know there’s a very large number of Canadians that are living within a very short amount of money and time between where they are now and bankruptcy.

We know that one of the most effective things we can do as government is look at the real-life costs that people are facing, be it child care, be it premiums they’re paying for medical insurance, for car insurance and a toll every day as you try to get to work and trying as best as we can to control what we can control.

I’m reminded of the prayer. I thought it was an Irish prayer. The Irish — we like to take credit and claim for most anything that we think is thoughtful. But it is an invocation, to say: “Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things that I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.”

I thought it was an Irish prayer and invocation because that’s what my grandmother used to tell me, and she was very, very Irish — that we need the courage to change the things we can. It takes a lot of grace to accept the things that we can’t, and then it’s the distinction of the difference between those two categories.

[4:10 p.m.]

I think sometimes we look at government, those of us that operate within the political sphere and those of us in our communities that look to government for solutions to our challenges in life. It’s important to make the distinctions.

What is it that we can actually control, and then what decisions do we make about that? We can’t control all the housing supply, but we can certainly bring much more supply into the market. We can’t control all the cost-of-living issues, we can’t control inflation, we can’t control the Bank of Canada and what interest rate they set, but we can control things that exist within the power of the provincial government to do, to try to lower the burden on people. I thought that was a very consistent theme in the throne speech, which is important because that’s the time we live in right now.

The second important context that I think the throne speech talks about — I heard the Premier mention it just earlier today — is the threat or concern of recession, of the significant slowdown, again caused by many factors, many of them global in nature, and the economy slowing down and there being less opportunities.

I don’t know about you, Madam Speaker, in your constituency, but one of our greatest challenges right now…. This is somewhat of a unique context in time. I’ve been in politics some time, and this is not typical. It’s been the labour shortage that has been the pressing concern for many of the businesses that I talk to on main street — just being able to find staff, qualified and otherwise; just people, bodies.

A constant and curious question that gets raised is: where did everybody go? What happened? There are so many fewer people willing to fill the positions, right across the employment spectrum, from folks pouring coffee to designing architectural plans and everything in between and around.

There are recessionary fears right now that affect the way our government is perceiving what comes next. There are a couple of choices when one sees a slowdown, perhaps less job opportunity or less revenue coming in to people or to government. Our choice, which was a very consistent choice, I would offer, when we were facing the threat of the early days of the pandemic and throughout….

The choices are to either withdraw — where the government pulls back, does less, spends less, becomes very insulated and insular — or to affect what we can affect. We saw — with, I believe, the highest per-capita rates of support to small businesses in the country, which came from this government in B.C. — that the effect was positive.

We supported chambers of commerce. We supported town councils and city councils right across because we wanted them to be able to keep their lights on when their doors were closed. Small towns were not able to receive the normal taxation and revenue because they didn’t want to tax their residents if they were about to lose their jobs.

We knew, from businesses to small communities to our health care system, that we had to invest. We had to place a bet to say that this was a wise use of the public resources that we collect, the public money that we collect. “We are going to protect ourselves as best as we can, allow people to stay home five days of sick leave.” All of the different measures we took in COVID.

We now look towards the threat of global recession. The estimates are changing. I think this might be…. They’re always changing; they’re economists. They’re always advising the government. They’re always in the newspaper. If you want three opinions, you ask two economists. The changes of how bad or, if a recession is coming, how deep it will be, have been shifting, and they’ve been shifting for the positive, generally speaking. That’s good.

But it’s also prudent to look around the world and to see, perhaps, demand dropping off — demand for things that we produce as British Columbians — and being cautious about that and saying: “All right, what do we need to do?”

Shoring up our manufacturing base. Making sure that we’re investing in training dollars. Continuing to invest in health care and child care and mental health supports and policing. Continuing to try to make our communities even more vibrant than we found them. I saw the tradition of that being consistent in the throne speech that I watched.

I would add — this is more on a personal level — that I think that along with those other inflationary and potential recessionary thoughts, there’s been the long-standing and jealously guarded tradition of greed. Some have taken advantage of the notions of inflation and just simply jacked their prices.

The reason I know that all of those exorbitant prices that we’re paying in the grocery store and at the fuel pump are not all associated to more expensive, broken supply chains is because we’re now seeing the profits recorded, because they’re publicly traded companies, of the major food companies, of the major oil and gas companies. They are doing very, very well, historically well.

[4:15 p.m.]

That frustrates me as a British Columbian. When peo­ple say, “Why are the prices so high at the pump?” some portion of that pie, some amount of that, is just rent and revenue-taking of extreme levels, and it frustrates me because this is something we can’t control provincially. This is a federal concern. We seem to have, as a country, turned a blind eye to that opportunism. It’s really hurting families. We’re doing what we can, as a province, but we do need our federal cousins to look at it in a much more serious way.

There are other aspects of the throne speech that I think are important for us in the northwest. One was a larger frame, which I was very, very encouraged to see, which was the notion of a rural strategy from this government. I think having a strategy that’s very explicit to rural British Columbians is important, because some of our needs, absolutely, are shared across big cities, in suburbia and into small towns. But there are also some things that are somewhat unique in terms of the challenges and opportunities we have as rural residents.

The cost of travel to medical appointments. I don’t know if you’ve had this experience. I hope you haven’t, Madam Speaker. Certainly, people in your life and people in my life have had to travel great distances for the very, very basic medical appointments that in the city might be a SkyTrain trip or a quick jump in the car or a taxi. For many of our rural residents, it could be many, many hours. Many hours, and it’s expensive not just in the getting there but potentially staying overnight.

We have issues of street disorder that look a little different, I think, in small towns. I was very glad to see the government announce a significant amount of money — $100 million, I believe — for policing, with a focus towards rural British Columbia. We know, and I mentioned this in the first segment of my throne speech, that small communities do struggle. It’s a small tax base.

Policing is very expensive. We have estimates that putting an officer on the street in some of our northern towns runs a municipality somewhere around $160,000 per offi­cer. That’s incredibly difficult on a municipal budget. I’ve seen some municipalities where the budget line for policing is 40, 45 or 48 percent of their total budget — just policing, nothing extra, not roads and maintenance and other things that the municipality has to spend on.

I was so grateful to see the announcement, from the new Minister of Municipal Affairs, of $1 billion with no significant strings attached, significant strings in terms of accountability and good prudence and accounting and all of the rest but to allow the communities in this province to access funds that they would not otherwise.

The notes that I’ve been getting from mayors, particularly in the North but around B.C., because I know many of them, are notes of surprise, questions of, “Is the money real? How are we going to see it?” and of course, all those good questions that mayors ought to ask.

We know that on the issues of street disorder, we see Vancouver making some significant investments, which we encourage, in terms of hiring more street nurses, mental health workers and some police. We know, and I heard this report from one of our cities just the other day, that out of all those calls of street disorder on our streets, in that city at least, 6 or 7 percent of them actually required the accompanying police officer.

The others, the vast majority, needed a mental health worker. They needed somebody in support — an addictions counsellor, somebody to help the person get off of the state of affairs they were in, where they were causing such disturbance and violence. Frankly, when we talk about violent offenders, repeat offenders, we also know we’re talking about a very small segment of even that population, which is a small population in and of itself.

I was encouraged to finally hear our federal cousins talk about changing bail requirements, which started with one intention: overrepresentation, particularly, of Indigenous people in our prisons, a good intention. The solution was a bit blunt, I would argue, and had unintended consequences, which we’ve asked Ottawa to reconsider.

Now, we’re not in question period, so I have the liberty of just saying that without having somebody yell back that we’re blaming others. This is not a blame game. This is a fact and a reality that we see in the evidence. We have given Crown some new directions, just with respect to their behaviours.

We absolutely need our federal counterparts to do their part in terms of bail reform and investments in mental health and all the rest that we’ve talked about, to make sure that our streets become that safe place that they need to be for everybody, including people who are homeless, people who are struggling with addictions. It is no more safe for them than it is for anyone else.

I want to speak a small moment, because I know I only have a couple of minutes left, with respect to the need our province has for and the incredible benefit we have received from immigration over the years.

[4:20 p.m.]

I am a son of immigrants. I am first-born of my family here. We have never regretted, particularly in terms of taking in refugees from war-torn countries…. This is of constant preoccupation as the war perpetrated by Putin in Ukraine continues with just disastrous consequences, I would argue, for both sides, particularly for Ukrainians and on the Russian people for being a part of this horrendous act.

We as British Columbians have seen our communities stand up and welcome in Ukrainians and continue to see support from our provincial government to the various Ukrainian communities and agencies that have done so much. We lifted up the settlement agencies, particularly in the Lower Mainland and here on Vancouver Island.

I want to say this small point to those that live in small-town British Columbia. I just spoke to somebody in Haida Gwaii whose community had accepted Syrians and Ukrainians and who was just reflecting back, as a Haida, on how much richness this brought and how many incredible stories that they were hearing and knowing how, over the last couple of years, their community has been enhanced by this. In one of our most furthest-flung communities, quite beautiful in just about every other way….

A part of our rural strategy has to be that — to allow the richness and diversity that is Canada to be a greater part of rural British Columbia, because we know we are made better. We know the diversity allows us to see different worldviews. That entrepreneurial spirit that immigrants have brought to this country over many generations is something that, maybe even to our homegrown younger generations, is a nice lesson too, because we struggle sometimes with our homegrown entrepreneurial spirit.

I mostly wanted to say that with immigration levels setting around 500,000 a year by the federal government and B.C. needing approximately one million new people to fill jobs over the next ten years, a preponderance of people are coming to this province. Building the housing for them, having the services in place, making sure their credentials are qualified and that they can do the work they’re trained to do is something our government is very focused on.

I very much appreciate your time and attention, Madam Speaker, to my response and the House’s attention, as well, and the opportunity to take this and speak on behalf of the people of Stikine, one of the most beautiful ridings in our province.

Personal Statements

WITHDRAWAL OF COMMENTS
MADE IN THE HOUSE

J. Routledge: This morning I rose to apologize for a remark I made yesterday in debate, and I neglected to with­draw the remark.

I withdraw it now.

Debate Continued

Hon. R. Singh: It is such an honour to stand up in the House today and talk about our throne speech. I’m very proud to be the MLA for Surrey–Green Timbers, but this is my first time speaking as the Minister of Education and Child Care as well, so very deeply honoured. Before I start, I just want to thank the constituents of Surrey–Green Timbers for giving me this honour since 2017.

Also 2017, I just want to…. When we formed the government in 2017, we put people — not just the people of Surrey–Green Timbers or Surrey but the people of British Columbia — at the forefront. Every decision, every investment that we have made is thinking about the people and the communities that have been needing the resources.

I remember, in 2017, one of the first decisions that came out from this government was taking off the tolls from the Port Mann Bridge. That is very, very strongly connected with my community of Surrey, because this is what we were hearing from people — that this was an undue tax that they had to pay just because they were living on the other side of the river.

Along with that, we took off the MSP premiums, which has helped, I know. I’ve heard a number of stories, like how many communities, how many people, how many families…. That one act of taking off that tax, taking off that burden has helped people.

[4:25 p.m.]

This is why it makes me extremely proud to be standing here and talking about what our vision is for the coming years. What we have been doing for the last almost six years is extremely important, making life better for people.

That has been what every member on this side of the House has been thinking about, how to work towards that. We also know that we have gone through a number of challenges in the last few years. I really want to thank everybody not just in this House but all across British Columbia who came together for us to get through that time. It was a very difficult, challenging time. Really, I want to raise hands for everybody who came together during those challenging and difficult times.

Just for the vision ahead, I want to say we started the groundwork in 2017. That’s the work we really want to continue during good times that people are enjoying, especially when the economy is great, when things are fine during those times, but also during the challenging times as well.

We know that what people are facing, the one thing that is on the top of their minds, is global inflation and affordability. Whenever I go around and go grocery shopping…. I remember I was grocery shopping in just my local store in my riding, Fruiticana, which is one of the best stores to get Indian groceries. I was just buying some vegetables, and I looked at the price of cauliflower. At that time — this was about three weeks ago — it was $7 for that small piece.

I just mentioned to the cashier…. I said: “Oh my god, this is so expensive, right?” There was a person just ahead of me who recognized me as the MLA. He looked back, and he said: “MLA, time for you to do something.” He was smiling. He was not accusing us of anything, but smiling. But then it made me realize how close to people’s hearts these issues are, the affordability. I just did not have the opportunity to talk to him, because he left. He picked up his bags and left.

These things matter to people. Little stuff. I know what people are struggling with. It does not matter what kind of job you’re doing. But it is hitting us. It is pinching us whenever we are going for grocery shopping. That’s what our government is really cognizant of. We have put in measures. We have put in resources for people, especially people who are at the lower end, who are struggling.

Especially, I really want to talk about our B.C. Affordability Credit that the new Premier announced when he was sworn in. It landed in bank accounts at the start of the new year. I think the stats are telling us that 85 percent of British Columbians will benefit from that affordability credit. I think this means a lot.

Hearing from people, understanding what they are going through and putting in resources and making an effort to make life a little easier for them. I think, as a government, we understand, and that’s what we have been doing for the last six years. But this is what we will continue to do. With this affordability credit, a family of four will get about $410.

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Before this affordability credit went out, we had made a lot of changes. I’ve already talked about taking off the tolls and taking off MSP premiums, but one of the biggest changes that we have brought in is the reduction in basic car insurance. That has been…. We have already reduced the costs, but basic insurance rates have been frozen for another two years. We have also reduced ICBC rates by an average of $490 a year.

We also received a $100 credit, a reduction of $100, in our hydro bills, and this went to everybody. Everybody who had a hydro account saw these changes.

These are a few things, and I really wanted to mention these because these are the things which are very, very close to people’s hearts. We know people are hurting, and in every possible way, we are trying to support them, especially people with families.

I really want to…. I did not get the opportunity to talk to the person that said to me that it is upon us as a government to do something, the person I met at the grocery store. But I just want to tell him, and many others who are listening today, that your government has your back. We are listening to you, and we are, during these tough times, especially during this global inflation, standing with you and will be supporting you in every possible way.

Another very, very important thing I want to talk about is child care costs. This is very close to my heart because it is part of my portfolio. I really want to…. I know that my partner in this portfolio, the Minister of State for Child Care, has already talked about it and is a great advocate on this issue. But I just want to talk about how much difference, in the last five years, we have been able to make by creating those child care spaces and also reducing the child care fees.

In November of this year, we announced our plan for affordable child care, with which an average family is saving up to $900 per child, per month. This is one of the biggest things, biggest differences that we have been able to make in people’s lives.

The reason I said it is very close to my heart…. I came to Canada in 2001 as an immigrant to this country, with a two-year-old son, at that time, obviously, with a dream of building a new family, a new home for myself and my young son. At that time, for both my husband…. Obviously, we both needed to work, but we just could not think of doing it at the same time, because we did not have access to affordable child care.

[S. Chandra Herbert in the chair.]

We did not, and as an immigrant I did not have the resources. I could not afford it. So what we were doing as a family at that time, because we had to pay our bills, had to pay our rent…. I was working during the day, and my husband would work during the night, just because we could take care of our son.

When I see any announcement, although my children are not of the child care age anymore — Mr. Speaker, yours are — I just feel so happy. What we had to go through, the struggles that we had to go through, the families, especially the new families, the new immigrants that are coming and making Canada, making British Columbia, their home…. They won’t have to go through this.

We are looking at this from an intersectional lens. It is not just because you are making more money and you have more access to it that you will get child care.

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We want to make child care the core program of our government services, and that’s the direction that we are going in. I’m so proud of the work that the previous Minister of Child Care has done in bringing us to where we are today and the continuous work that I, along with the Minister of State for Child Care, will keep on doing to make child care affordable and accessible for everybody, for anybody who has children. If they want to access the service, they should be getting it.

One thing that is very close to child care is education. As the Minister of Education and, also, as a parent whose kids have gone through the public education system, I think really good investment in our education is key when we are talking about having kids who can do well in society.

I’m so proud of our government for the historic investment that they have made in education in all the communities, especially with the influx of new people who are coming to British Columbia. One of the key attractions for those people making British Columbia their home is the education system that we are providing to those children.

I’m so very proud to say that B.C.’s education system is one of the best five that we have all across the world. I could see it before. My son went through the public education system. My daughter is still in the public education system. I could see it.

When I was told that it is one of the top five, it made me so proud. It’s not just the work that I am doing, the work that I am going to lead. It is just how important it is for parents like myself, my colleagues here but also for so many families who are coming here and making British Columbia their home. We are committed to giving those families, giving those children a quality education wherever they are living in this province. Whether it is in the Lower Mainland or up in the North, in the rural communities, this is our commitment to them.

Another thing that was in our throne speech that I want to touch upon…. It is not my current portfolio. It was my previous portfolio. I used to be the Parliamentary Secretary for Anti-Racism Initiatives.

Last year was an historic year for us. We, for the first time ever in British Columbia, launched our anti-racism data legislation. Racism is a difficult topic. It’s a challenging topic to talk about, but this is a topic we really need to take action on.

I’m really proud of what our government has done, having made it a priority. We know that we are dealing with a number of challenges. I’ve already talked about the affordability. We are also, especially when the challenges are up, when communities are struggling….

We saw it during the challenging times we just went through. When things are going badly, it is like we are always looking to blame somebody for that. We have seen that in the rise of anti-Asian hate crimes.

It is also time for us to reflect on our systemic structures, which are colonial and due to the colonization. A lot of things…. How those structures are built is creating gaps. They are creating barriers for Indigenous, Black and peo­ple of colour.

I have always said this, and I will say it again. As government, we have a moral and an ethical responsibility to tackle racism. I’m so glad that we are making it a priority. We are making it imperative that, especially, our government systems have…. When people are accessing our core services — like health care, like education, like housing — they are not facing those barriers.

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It is not an easy task. It will take some time. It is not just because…. We brought in the anti-racism data legislation last year. We will be bringing our anti-racism act. It would be the first time in British Columbia that we will be introducing that, and I have the Attorney General sitting here. She’s the one that will be leading that file — so very proud of that.

This is how we want to make our communities inclusive and welcoming, especially all those people who are coming here with hope, with dreams in their eyes, and they want this British Columbia to work for them, for their families. I just want to tell them that, as your government, we are committed to doing that.

Another thing I would really like to touch upon is housing. I know we have heard not just in the question period…. We have seen it in the news, and I personally have heard from a number of my constituents, especially new immigrants who are moving to this country — the housing crisis that they are facing.

I would say that I have been…. Although as an immigrant, life was quite difficult for us to start here. But I’m still very…. I consider myself extremely privileged to be in the housing market, which is not a reality for so many of these people.

I have a really good friend who’s doing a very good job and, according to my standards, making pretty decent money. But Eddy is living in a small basement, and he’s been living in that basement for the last eight years. Every time I go and talk to him, whenever we have the opportunity, he always talks about: “I don’t know how I will even be able to get into the housing market.” He has children who are growing up, and they need more space.

For so long, the housing market has worked very well for the speculators, and it has worked very well for the investors, who have used the housing crisis to make excessive profits. But it has not worked for the common man who wants to get into that housing market.

As a government, we have taken important action to deliver the homes that people need. I really am extremely proud of the work that we have done in the last few years, especially cracking down on the speculation with the speculation and vacancy tax, with which we have been able to turn 20,000 empty condos into rental homes. This is something…. I think this is work that needs to continue, and this is our commitment to British Columbians — that we will keep on working. We are hearing them.

We are starting to see the results of these efforts, like the 10 percent increase in construction of rental housing this year. This is so very important. We have also, as government, removed unfair strata restrictions, so empty condos become rental units for people.

We are also investing $500 million in a new rental protection fund. I think this is extremely important, especially in the wake of a number of people we are getting, who are going to come to British Columbia. We know that more than 100,000 people came to British Columbia last year, and we know that number is going to exceed in this year.

With that, I also want to talk about the labour shortage that we are facing. We definitely need more people to come here, and we are very thankful for all the people who are making British Columbia home.

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But for a long time, a lot of people who were coming here with the skills to be able to do the jobs that they had been doing in their home countries or home provinces before, have been facing barriers. I can say this.

When I came here, almost 22 years ago, I was hearing from the immigrant communities at that time that this was a barrier that they are facing that somehow we, as Canada, really want people to come here and make their home, but they are not able to get the respect and the dignity, especially in the workforce. I would say it was more common and more prevalent in the people coming from South Asian countries and Middle Eastern countries. This was like a barrier that they faced.

You would think that in the last 20 years, these barriers would be loosened or these barriers would be reduced, but it has not been the case. In the wake of the labour shortage that we have, a lot of that has to do with because we have not been able to get these people who have amazing skills and amazing qualifications to work in the fields that they deserve to be working in.

We have heard a number of stories, especially in British Columbia, that people say that the best way you can find a doctor or physician would be if you are in a cab, because a lot of times those extremely talented, professional people have to do these jobs. It’s a sad reality. I would, again, talk about the intersectional lens in here. It is much more prevalent for the Black and racialized immigrants. Finding the professions that they can work in is even more difficult for them. We are going to change that.

We are putting in the resources so that there’s a way to assess their skills and to make the foreign credentials — how to lose that red tape-ism around it so that we are able to train more people. I’m sure that they are bringing an immense amount of experience from their home countries but how to make it easier for them to use those skills, to use that qualification and be a productive part of our very strong and robust labour force.

We know that in the next five years how many job openings are going to come in British Columbia. I’m really, really hopeful that we, as government, are able to utilize everybody’s qualifications, and anybody who is coming to British Columbia is able to work in the field that they deserve to be working in. This is what our government’s commitment is, and I’m sure that we will be hearing more about it in our upcoming budget as well.

I want to say…. There are a lot of challenges. I know people are worried about safety of their communities. We, as government, hear them. When they say that they don’t feel safe going and taking their family in the Downtown Eastside, we hear them. When we are talking about safety, it is not just about policing or having more forces out there.

It is important investments in everything that is causing this, going to the root cause of the issues, like putting in the resources for the mental health, creating more Foundries and creating more resources for people. If they want to access mental health resources, having more complex care housing, putting in the resources and looking at any situation from an intersectional lens. A lot of times, we see a situation and we think there is just one solution, but it is not, because these issues are so complex, so layered — a lot of different layers.

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A lot of collaboration is required to find resources and solutions for that problem. I know these are challenging issues, especially when it comes to mental health, about the safety. People get really concerned about these issues, and we hear them. That’s why we are putting resources, whether it is giving the resources, creating more complex care housing, increasing the minimum wag — all that we are doing…. We have this vision in mind that we are able to create communities that are safe, that are welcoming and where we are able to raise our families.

This is the dream that I came with. I can’t believe it’s almost 22 years ago. This is the dream that I hope people continue with — that they believe their government is with them during good times, but also during the challenging times. We are going to stand with them, whether it is on the issues of affordability….

I know one issue I did not have the time to touch upon is the climate crisis. That is on top of people’s minds. On every challenge that you are facing, we are hearing you, and we are going to be with you. We have always put people first, and this is what we will continue to do.

With that, I’ll take my seat.

Hon. N. Sharma: I’m very pleased to speak in favour of the throne speech in this response. I want to start by thanking some people that help support us. The first is the staff in my constituency office, who, as we all know as MLAs, do a lot of work in our communities to help represent us. I just want to thank Mariah Gillis, Kathryn Mandell and Jessica Wei for being there for my community at the community office and doing the important work there.

As having been the Attorney General for over two months now, I also have a very important team to thank in my office that have been helping me transition into this role and really supporting me. I want to thank Amelia Hill, Derrick Harder, Tamera Nanninga, and Paula Demelo for being part of the team. I really am looking forward to working with them over the next little bit.

One of the really important traditions of throne speeches is to start by acknowledging those people we have lost over the years. One person was particularly important to my community, and I just wanted to take a minute to acknowledge that loss, which was Kat Norris, who was an incredible Indigenous warrior, leader in our community. Everybody that had showed up for any kind of movement or protest or event in Vancouver would have probably heard Kat giving a very powerful speech. She was a very strong Coast Salish advocate and was attributed to a lot of work on Idle No More and starting Vancouver’s first Aboriginal Day.

In a memorial, people described her as a pillar of beauty, grace and strength. I certainly second that. It’s a great loss when such a leader leaves us, but her legacy certainly will live on forever.

This throne speech goes through a lot of our government’s commitments to the people of British Columbia, focusing on affordability, tackling the housing crisis, public health care, making our communities safer, fighting climate change and, of course, the important work of reconciliation.

I want to spend some time going over some of the things that I think are so important about the commitments this government has made in our community. The first one I’ll start with is child care. Child care has had such a profound impact on so many communities and families across the province. Our investments in not only adding spaces but also increasing the affordability of child care and also supporting the workforce have had such an important impact on communities.

I want to share with you a story that, as an MLA, I will remember for the rest of my life. It’s one of my fondest memories of how government can actually work directly to impact lives in community. We have a very, very good provider, Kiwassa Neighbourhood House, of two child care sites. And when they became a $10-a-day site, they decided what they would do was to surprise their parents and not tell them exactly what had happened, which is that they were going to then be paying $10 a day.

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So I showed up with the team, and they were playing music in the background, with chocolate and lots of little giveaways with $10-a-day stickers. We got to announce it to each parent as they dropped off their child in the morning. The parent would come to drop them off, and I would be there, along with the leadership team, to say: “Guess what. You’re now in a $10-a-day site.”

I have to tell you that the stories and the memories of that moment and that impact on parents I will carry with me for the rest of my days. There were a lot of tears. There was a lot of surprise, and there were a lot of feelings about how much of a change that would be in their lives — to have that impact. Over and over again, more than one parent would say: “You mean I only have to pay $10 a day for child care?” It was just such a beautiful moment that I’m really grateful to be a part of.

It really was a firsthand experience of government in action, making a difference in people’s lives, and that’s what we do here. That’s what we came here to do. Although some issues are very challenging, we are constantly making the effort to invest in the solutions we know will help people and impact people in their lives.

Another big issue in my community is housing. Housing, as many people know, in Vancouver, is a big challenge. We are, as a government, investing in the types of housing across the spectrum that are needed. I know one such change in policy that’s made a big difference in my community is the speculation tax. This was directly focused at getting all of those….

Half of my community are renters. A lot of things that I hear are about the instability of some rental units or some that are just unavailable, so it drives up costs. That action of stepping in has put 20,000 units on the market — the vacancy rules that have been put in place for that.

I just think this is the type of creativity that it takes in this crisis that we’re in when it comes to housing, and that’s what this government does. We consult with experts. We consult with community members. We think about solutions that communities are facing, and then we take actions that are unprecedented and often very new and innovative. I think that’s a really good example of that.

I also want to talk just a little bit about health care. We’ve been taking and putting a lot of effort…. Every time you talk about health care, I think everybody in this House has to first thank all of those health care workers out there for the level of commitment they showed for their jobs over the last three years, which have been extremely challenging, and how they’ve showed up for all of our communities across the province and provided service at a time of need for so many people.

We’ve been through a lot together. This government’s approach, and it’s noted in the throne speech, is about investing in health care and advocating for more funding and also taking the approaches of building up services in community.

I have to say, as a parent of two kids, I far too often am accessing health care services, usually for accidents or things that have come up. There has been…. For two years in our community, we’ve benefited from the investment in an urgent primary care centre, the Northeast UPCC. This team, right on Hastings Street, down from my office, is a great team and a great service for the community.

As I said, I’ve been there far too often, unfortunately, with my kids. Only two weeks ago I was there, actually, on a Saturday. What I saw and what I continue to see with that team in our community is a group of very committed, very compassionate, very able health care professionals that are providing services that are wonderfully adapted to the community and the needs of the community.

I can speak for myself, where I really appreciated the service and what they were able to provide me, but I also know they were in tune with the needs of the community. They also provide, for example, harm reduction supplies at the door. They provide services to connect with mental health supports if that’s needed. This model of health care, at the community level, I know is really benefiting my community, along with the access for things that you don’t want to wait in an emergency room for.

I certainly want to thank the team at the Northeast UPCC for their great work and for the way they show up for my community all the time.

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We know that a very pressing issue for lots of communities right now has to do with safer streets. Part of my portfolio and work that I’m working on with my colleagues across the spectrum and other cabinet ministers is on our safer communities action plan. I just wanted to talk a little bit about the work at the Attorney General’s office that was talked about in the throne speech related to that.

Everybody in their community deserves to feel safe. We know that across the country there has been a rise in unfortunate and very tragic, violent incidents that were an unfortunate result of changes to bail policy at the federal level. We have been advocating to the federal government but also are taking action.

One of the important investments that you see in this throne speech is for the repeat violent offenders response teams. This is modeled after something that was around, around 2012. Unfortunately, it was cut, but it was actually a targeted response team that was to circle the criminal justice system around repeat violent offenders and help to think about what the tools are for that particular individual, to face consequences if there’s violence, and also to think about how the systems could connect each other.

The repeat violent offender response teams will have Crown counsel, with probation officers and with police officers working together. It’s, I think, a very important approach to helping to respond to the street-level violence and the repeat violent offenders. We know we need changes to advocate to the federal government, which we will continue to do.

We have invested in an increase in the Crown counsel to support that. There are 21 Crown counsel that would be dedicated to that team. In order to invest in all of the Crown counsel, we need…. So 40 new Crown counsel are going to be hired. This is just part of the work that we’re doing on the safer communities action plan.

Of course, my part of it with the justice system, I also work with the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions and the Minister of Public Safety, because we know there are multiple responses that are needed. Housing is also a component. This kind of government-wide response under the safer communities action plan is really going to help us focus on a range of solutions that are needed for this, and I’m really looking forward to continuing that work of my predecessors on that.

I’m fortunate to be in the House with the previous PS for anti-racism here. Another important work that we’re doing, also under the AG’s office, is anti-racism work. Not only is this important in terms of, as previous speakers talked about so eloquently, actually addressing the systemic barriers that exist in government…. It’s such important work.

The first step is with the anti-racism data legislation, and we’re going to see the results of that soon. But as was mentioned previously, what we need to think about is: how do you look at changing government systems to address racism? It’s a big task, and it’s an important one that we need to work with our community members to understand how to do, but we do plan on introducing legislation that would be like an accompaniment to that anti-racism data legislation. It’s part of the work that I know the new PS for anti-racism — we’ll be working together on.

It’s always disturbing, I think, to everybody when we hear about the rise in hate crimes or the rise in anti-Asian hate and the things that we were reeling with in our community over the last few years. What I’m grateful for is that this government has a response that’s not only empathetic but connects communities, that reaches across different communities and brings them together and then comes up with solutions to figure out how we can address those challenges, because a lot of times we need to do more than just denounce things.

We need to figure out how to change things to respond to that. I’m really looking forward to continuing that work. I think the throne speech really reflects our commitment and our continuing commitment on that.

What also the throne speech talks about is upcoming legislation on non-consensual disclosure of intimate images. I think many of us have been horrified over the years to hear stories of, particularly, women, when they’re impacted by the disclosure of images that they didn’t consent to. That can, in our day, have long-lasting impacts for their lives, for their mental health. We, as governments across, actually, the world, need to focus on building up those legal systems to respond to the harms that are often found online that people are facing.

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This piece of work — I know it had a lot of hands in it that are previous to me — that will be coming forward really is focused on helping those people that are harmed by this in B.C. have recourse and have some way to be protected from this. I think it’s really important work that we’re doing with our partners. It shows our commitment to keeping people safe.

At the heart, the work that I do is about equity, justice and fairness. We need to continually think about how the ways that technology and our changing lifestyles are impacting upon that and constantly adapt as governments. I think this is a sign of how we’re doing that. Of course, there’s always more work to do.

The throne speech talks also about our First Nations justice strategy. At heart, this strategy is about decreasing the impacts of the justice system on Indigenous people, the negative impacts that have happened over time, and decreasing the rates of incarceration of Indigenous people. The work was done by a lot of really important Indigenous leaders and led by the First Nations Justice Council. I’m so grateful for their work.

A lot of times, I think, we as a government need to think about how decolonization means getting out of the way and letting Indigenous leadership lead the way. I think our First Nations justice strategy is an example of us doing that.

The throne speech talks about a commitment to ten new Indigenous justice centres across the province, and we’re committed to expanding on that. Right now the First Nations Justice Council is a team of very committed leaders that are talking about what amazing work they could do across the province if they had Indigenous justice centres, as we’re going to invest in across the province, to show up for people when they’re most in their time of need in their encounters with the justice system — help them come up with plans and diversion and support the transition of the justice system.

There’s another side to the work under the First Nations justice strategy. That is the second track, which is really important and very much an important part of the work, which is rebuilding Indigenous justice systems on their own. There’s a lot of really amazing thought leadership in professors like Val Napoleon that we’re really blessed to have, actually, in B.C., and that are thinking about Indigenous legal orders and how that shows up in our colonial, right now, justice system. I’m really excited about that work.

Of course, we will always approach that work by being led by Indigenous leaders and understanding their ways of being and knowing when it comes to justice. Parts of that strategy also cover many things. So as a ministry, we will be focused, along with this government, on how reconciliation shows up in the justice system and the many ways or work that we have to do in that regard.

I also wanted to talk a little bit about our climate commitments. We, as a government, have a very strong climate plan, very focused on figuring out a pathway to meeting our targets, which are vital. In B.C., unfortunately, we’ve felt the brunt of a lot of, too many, climate disasters that are still impacting our communities. I think the work of the new ministry is going to be super vital when it comes not only to more forward planning with our Emergency Management but the work of our Minister of Environment and Climate Change about our path to meeting those targets.

I want to talk about this initiative out of my consti­tuency office and the volunteers that have come together. In Vancouver-Hastings, we have a climate action team, which is a group of really remarkable volunteers that came together to actually just sit around a table and plan how we can help our community face the impacts of climate change and mitigate some of those impacts and also do the transition work that needs to happen on a community level. This group of sometimes 20, sometimes more, peo­ple come together to meet regularly. I just want to acknowledge, and I’m so grateful for their work.

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They have decided to have three subcommittees: one on active transport, one on buildings and one on food. They are hard at work in the community doing different actions. Most recently we had a very successful event that was about helping people understand heat pumps and how they show up and what our various incentives are for peo­ple to transition to a heat pump.

We planned it wondering: when you do these things, how many people are going to show up? Are people interested? It’s the big question mark when you do community events. What happened was that a full room of residents of Vancouver-Hastings showed up with pads of paper and pens, ready to learn.

We had a team from the city of Vancouver that came to talk about it and, actually, just brought a heat pump. They talked about how it works and what different things you have to consider when you’re transitioning, how to think about the incentives that are in place.

It was just, to me, a really remarkable community-level action that that climate team did and that I know is going to have an impact. After that meeting, we know that at least five or six of those people that showed up at that information session are now transitioning to heat pumps. These are greenhouse gas emissions that will be removed from the air forever.

I have to acknowledge that all of those volunteers that show up on that climate action team are doing incredible work. I’m so grateful for it. You know, it’s one of those things that you learn: sometimes, when you just bring people together that are passionate and that care about an issue, it’s amazing what will happen, just amazing. I look forward to the things that come from it afterwards.

I talked a little bit about the work that we’re doing on the First Nations justice centres. But another part of the work is about the bigger piece of reconciliation and how we bring UNDRIP in, in all of our laws, take a look at our laws and see if we are in compliance with our Declaration Act. That’s important work. That’s work where I’m really impressed by the leadership we have in government and the team that’s working on that.

I know it’ll take time, but what I really appreciate about our approach so far — I know that we will continue — is that we’ve always focused on building the partnerships and the agreements necessary to come up with solutions. I think Blueberry First Nation, that agreement, was a great example of that. I know that we will continue that work when we think about reconciliation.

This throne speech really covers off our approach to governing, which is to listen to the issues that are happening in community and to respond. I know there are challenges that people are facing with rising costs and housing. I know that one thing about British Colum­bians is that when we come together to tackle these problems, just like we did in the pandemic, we can have some amazing results.

That’s the approach that we’ll continue to take with the challenges that are being faced today. I’m grateful for the work of all of our colleagues and the commitment of this government to be on the side of British Columbians when it comes to addressing those problems.

Hon. D. Coulter: Thank you to my colleagues for the wonderful support I’m getting. I really am appreciating the debate here on the throne speech. I’m also very excited that this is my first opportunity to speak since we’ve come back to session. I’ve always really enjoyed speaking in the House, and I enjoy listening to my colleagues.

I think the Attorney General just gave a wonderful summary of the throne speech and the ways that we’re addressing the challenges that British Columbians are facing, but I’d like to talk about it as well, because I think it’s very important that we are taking action to address the things that are affecting everyday people here in our province. The throne speech accurately outlined our government’s plan to tackle the big challenges and, as well, to build a stronger and more secure future for everyone.

Maybe I’ll start by talking a little bit about my own constituency. It’s sort of an urban-suburban constituency, but we also have quite a bit of ALR land in farming. A lot of the things that are affecting my constituents have been addressed in the throne speech, helping people with costs. For folks in my constituency, $69,000 is the median take-home pay for a household.

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Helping people with costs is very important to my constituents, things like child care. It’s amazing. The amount of money that people save through our child care plan, as it continues to roll out, is life-changing to some of my constituents. I’m very, very proud of my government’s, our government’s, dedication to this. It’s building an entirely new universal plan that is really helping British Columbians and is invaluable to many of my constituents.

Deputy Speaker: Sorry, Minister. I see a minister may seek leave to make an introduction. I’m just guessing.

Hon. R. Fleming: Yes, you have read my mind, Mr. Speaker. I do seek leave to make an introduction — with apologies to the minister for interrupting the flow of his response to the throne speech.

Leave granted.

Introductions by Members

Hon. R. Fleming: It’s a great pleasure to see in the gallery joining us the Victoria 79th Embers, formerly known as Brownies, and their teacher, Stephanie Calce. I think we have 15 Embers with us and three adult chaperones. Would the members welcome these folks to the House.

Deputy Speaker: Welcome to the Embers.

Debate Continued

Hon. D. Coulter: I’d just like to say to the minister that there’s no need to apologize for interrupting my flow. I can always pick it right back up, and the introduction that he just made is really important.

I welcome the Embers here as well. It’s lovely to see you. You get to see democracy in action here, which is really, really great. I once went to a legislature and saw this, and now I’m doing it. It’s really impressive. So I hope we have some future legislators up there in the gallery today. Wonderful to see you here.

I think when I left off, I was talking about how important child care is for the folks in my constituency and how life-changing it is to have a whole new universal social program, such as child care. I really have to thank the incredible work that my colleague the former Minister of State for Child Care has done on this file. It’s just absolutely amazing. I can see her up on the screen there. She’s participating today remotely.

I can’t believe the amount of work she has done, as well as the Attorney General. Our current Attorney General really worked hard on the child care file when she was ministerial adviser for the Minister of State for Child Care. It’s so important for my constituents, and I cannot thank you enough for the hard work you’ve done. I’m very impressed by the hard work you’ve done, as well, so thank you very much.

In my riding of Chilliwack, the government has actually opened up 365 child care spaces and converted 37 spaces to be $10-a-day spaces, making a huge difference for parents as of September 2022. I think I mentioned the median household income of my constituents, so things like this are just life changing.

We’re putting money back in the pockets of parents, with incredible fee reductions that were put in place across this province this January, saving parents up to $550 per month. When your median household income is $69,000 a year, that is absolutely life changing. That’s an amazing program, and I’m very impressed, very thankful, on behalf of my constituents, to the former Minister of State for Child Care and the current Minister of State for Child Care for the excellent work they’ve done.

Another way we’re helping people with costs is with the tax credits we have for businesses and individuals. The new B.C. Affordability Credit introduced this year will help 85 percent of British Columbians by putting as much as $410 into the accounts of families of four.

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That is just amazing. It is another great step by our government to help people with rising costs, which we’re all feeling, obviously. With inflation and global supply chain challenges…. These kinds of things, to help people and support them through these challenging times, are invaluable.

I can say that my constituents are affected by this deeply. I hear about this all the time in my office and assist people, with casework, in my office, who are definitely facing these sorts of challenges. So credits such as these are very, very important for my constituents and for the people of British Columbia.

Our government is taking action on helping people with the cost of living. I’m really happy about that and happy to see that addressed in the throne speech. I’ll leave it there and move on a little bit.

Other credits. Individuals received $100 for a B.C. Hydro credit, and businesses were eligible for up to $500 off their hydro bill. This, also, is a great measure to support people through this cost-of-living challenge.

Car insurance rates. We froze the increases for two years, which is amazing. We’ve reduced ICBC rates.

This particular measure is extremely important. We ended bridge tolls. Bridge tolls were a tax on hard-working British Columbians that couldn’t afford housing, necessarily, in the city centres. So they needed to use bridges to get to work. Bridge tolls were extremely burdensome for many British Columbians.

The Leader of the Opposition has said that removing bridge tolls was a bad policy decision. It was a good policy decision, and I’m proud that our government did that. We are saving British Columbians who have to travel for work money every day. It’s really a regressive tax on hard-working British Columbians. So I’m so proud of my government for removing bridge tolls.

I heard the Minister of State for Workforce Development’s speech. He was talking about the lack of infrastructure being built south of the Fraser. That went on for many, many years. Then you add bridge tolls to this.

The people south of the Fraser are much better served by an NDP government than they would be by the B.C. Liberals, for sure. We’d still have bridge tolls. Who knows if there would be infrastructure being built? I would hazard a guess that it wouldn’t be. I don’t know that the folks who live south of the Fraser, the hard-working folks that live south of the Fraser, were prioritized at all before our government took over.

As the Minister of State for Infrastructure and Transit, I get to work on exciting new transit projects south of the Fraser, which I’m really excited about. The Surrey-Langley SkyTrain is going to be life-changing.

Interjection.

Hon. D. Coulter: The Minister of State for Workforce Development is a big fan of the Surrey-Langley SkyTrain, and I’m glad he is. It is going to be a game-changer south of the Fraser.

I’m also working with the Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure on transit-oriented development. South of the Fraser, around these transit hubs and SkyTrain stations, we’re going to look to develop and create housing so folks can get to work more easily than if they lived away from these hubs. So I’m very proud to work on that.

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I just, last week, drove the path of the Surrey-Langley SkyTrain, where it is going to be. It’s going through some areas that were really underserved and that I think are going to be well served by the new line, as well as just being able to expand what is there and being able to develop around the SkyTrain station in those areas.

Some other things we’re doing to help people with costs. We eliminated the MSP, the largest middle-income tax cut in British Columbian history — invaluable to my constituents. The people in my constituency are thanking the B.C. NDP government for this excellent, excellent measure.

I know we’ll continue to introduce measures that help British Columbians who need it most, including low- and middle-income families, which are the families that I’ve been talking about that live south of the Fraser, my constituents. I’m really excited that we have a B.C. NDP government, for obvious reasons. We’re helping people with the cost of living as well as other things.

Another thing I’m working on as the Minister of State for Infrastructure and Transit is widening Highway 1 from Langley through to Abbotsford — I know in the Minister of Transportation’s mandate letter — and possibly out to Chilliwack. We’re still studying that part. That highway was built a long time ago, and it is long overdue that we put an HOV lane on that highway.

We’re also looking at doing other things in the Fraser Valley. We’re looking at the entire transportation system in the Fraser Valley, how the different pieces interact with each other, to see if we can match that up better — integrate it, if you will — as well as the aforementioned transportation-oriented development that we’re looking at. We’ll be looking at that and doing those things in the Fraser Valley.

This, once again, is going to save my constituents money. It’s going to improve services for folks in the Fraser Valley who are very underserved right now by the transit system.

Our government is taking action. It’s our government that is doing these things and doing the things that the B.C. Liberal government failed to do. So I’m quite excited about that too.

Another thing that was quite outlined in the throne speech was the strengthening of public health care. We all know that the pandemic took a real toll on public health care. So we are taking action to strengthen it. It is a vitally important thing to all of us in British Columbia and, I would say, in Canada. It is one of our strongest values. It is something that every Canadian and every British Columbian is proud of. I’m happy that we are strengthening it.

The previous government gutted the health care system. It was further events that strained it through the unprecedented global pandemic.

We’re adding more medical training seats for doctors and other health care professionals. We want to keep health care public and make primary care available to all British Columbians.

In my riding, we now have a new primary care clinic. The Health Minister was out to open it up with myself and the member for Chilliwack-Kent in attendance. It is an impressive space. It will hold many different health care professionals: doctors, nurse practitioners, social workers. It also has culturally safe space for Indigenous folks. It’s really impressive, and I’m very proud of my government.

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Some of the work of my friend the Minister of State for Workforce Development is bringing folks with foreign credentials into our health care system. We’re looking at 2,000 internationally educated nurses fast-tracked into our system. Our Premier has also indicated that we are looking to do that, maybe, for other health care professions as well.

Really important. Our Premier recently, in Ottawa, was working on an historic agreement on health care funding with the federal government. This is important. The share that the federal government has been…. The health care transfers to our province have been declining — well, to all provinces across Canada. The federal government’s share has been declining. It was partially declining during the reign when the B.C. Liberals were there.

Stephen Harper, the former Prime Minister of Canada, made some cuts to the health care transfers. I just want to read you some quotes. This funding cut deeply affected British Columbians and was, in my view, a very bad thing. Others in the country felt it was bad as well.

The Ontario Finance Minister, Dwight Duncan, at the time said it was “a frontal attack on public health care.”

Quebec Finance Minister Raymond Bachand said: “Totally unacceptable.”

Manitoba Finance Minister Stan Struthers said that it’s a lump of coal.

Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall, not known for being a social democrat, called the cuts to the Canada health transfer frustrating.

P.E.I. Finance Minister Wes Sheridan: “I couldn’t quite believe what we were seeing.”

Nova Scotia Premier Darrell Dexter called the cuts to the Canada health transfer “profoundly disappointing.”

What did the B.C. Finance Minister at the time have to say? That former B.C. Finance Minister, I’ll just kindly point out, is the current leader of the B.C. Liberals. He said: “From B.C.’s perspective, we think certainty is a good thing” and “I appreciate that certainty. Obviously, some of my colleagues feel differently.”

Of course they felt differently. They opposed the cuts to the Canada health transfer.

Now, a B.C. NDP government would never do that. We believe in strengthening our public health care system. That was outlined in the throne speech.

I just would like to draw that contrast between our approach, in the B.C. NDP caucus, and the approach that the members opposite would take.

Interjection.

Deputy Speaker: Member.

Hon. D. Coulter: I don’t understand why you would heckle public health care, why you oppose public health care. That’s beyond me.

It’s an interesting choice. Like I said, it’s not a choice that a B.C. NDP government will ever take. We will always stand up for public health care. You’ll never catch me heckling another member making a statement about public health care. It’s just not something you’ll see me do.

Another thing that our government is working on, and that was in the throne speech, is to make our communities safer, with actions to get violent offenders off the street and new laws to crack down on gangs, money laundering and the non-consensual distribution of intimate images. This is very important.

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The Attorney General yesterday outlined in question period some of the actions that our government is taking to crack down on repeat violent offenders. We have a new cadre of prosecutors. I think the Attorney General said it was 20 prosecutors that are going to be dedicated to tackling repeat violent offenders and make sure that they cannot wreak havoc on our streets and hurt people.

I know this is very important to my constituents, and I know it’s very important to British Columbians in general. We’re also directing Crown counsel to oppose bail or at least fight hard for it when it comes to violent repeat offenders. That is also going to help keep our community safer. Once again, outlined in the throne speech.

We’re also petitioning the federal government, as a lot of other provincial governments are, to change the bail system. There were some very unintended consequences from a recent law that that the federal government introduced and passed in their parliament. I think these measures are going to really help make our streets safer and help my constituents. I know that for sure. I know they’re concerned about public safety. They’re concerned about street disorder. But we are taking action, and that’s been outlined in the Speech from the Throne.

Another thing I would like to highlight that was in the Speech from the Throne is the fact that we are fighting climate change and building an economy for everyone. I think it’s evident we’re building an economy for everyone, and why people want to move here is because we have a thriving economy that is inclusive and designed for everyone.

I think, in question period today, the Premier put quite a fine point on that. Many people are moving to British Columbia, and many people are coming from other countries or, from within Canada, are moving to British Columbia. They want to live here, because it is a good place to live, and we have a strong, vibrant economy.

I’ll say that is a really good thing, but it also presents some challenges for us. It’s exacerbating a housing crisis that we have, which is another part of the throne speech. We are tackling this housing crisis. We’re getting tough on speculators.

I think it’s very important that we introduced a speculation and vacancy tax that opened up 20,000 homes for British Columbians to live in. I think it was a good measure. The B.C. Liberal leader disagrees and may, if he comes to power, cancel this speculation tax, which I think would be disastrous for British Columbians. I think our government is taking strong action on getting tough with speculators.

We’re also launching a refreshed middle-class housing strategy and increasing homes and services near transit hubs across the province. That goes back to that transit-oriented development, I was talking about, which is really important, so people can get to work and back in an efficient, easy, cheap manner that is also good for our planet as we get people out of cars. Having transit-oriented development makes that much more convenient than it otherwise would be.

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We’ve taken a lot of other measures on housing. I think the Premier, today, was talking about real estate investment trusts and, hopefully, dissuading them or stopping them from actually buying up buildings and evicting people. I think that’s a strong move by our government, to do that.

I’d like to say I’m looking forward to the upcoming session. I’m looking forward to what our government will be doing this year, the actions that we’re going to take, and I really appreciate that that was laid out in the throne speech so well.

I will leave it there, Mr. Speaker, and I look forward to hearing from more of my colleagues about how great the throne speech is.

Deputy Speaker: Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General. [Applause.]

Hon. M. Farnworth: God, I haven’t started speaking yet. We’ll see what they do at the end.

Anyway, it’s my pleasure to take my place in the throne speech debate. I haven’t spoken on a throne speech for a little while, so I’m really looking forward to the opportunity for a number of reasons.

I think I’ll start by talking a little bit about my riding and how the throne speech is going to benefit my community of Port Coquitlam.

For those who don’t know, I have called Port Coquitlam home for over 50 years, since 1969. At that time, it was a small community of about 10,000 people, and now it’s about 60,000 people. It has had significant growth during that time, but it’s a wonderful place to raise a family. It’s a wonderful place to live, and it’s been an amazing place to represent as MLA. It is unique.

The nice thing about being MLA in Port Coquitlam is that it is the last riding in the province whose boundaries are completely coterminous with the city boundaries. There used to be, prior to the last redistribution, two — New Westminster and my riding — and now it’s just my riding. As all of us know here, it’s really nice when you’re the only MLA for a particular community because you have your one council. You’re not dealing with a whole range of councils, and you can have a really good relationship. That’s the case in my community.

I have an amazing council in Port Coquitlam, headed by our mayor, Brad West, and six really community-minded, dedicated councillors: councillor Darrell Penner, councillor Steve Darling, new councillor Paige Petriw, councillor Nancy McCurrach, councillor Dean Washington and a very good constituency assistant, my councillor Glen Pollock, whom I hope to introduce to the House in the coming weeks because, sadly for me, he is retiring from my office. I know members from both sides of the House who have had dealings with him know that he does an incredible job on behalf of the people of my riding as a constituency assistant but also as a city councillor.

I say that because throne speeches are important to communities. They look forward to how the throne speech is going to impact them on a whole range of issues, whether it is health care, whether it is education and transportation, public safety — all the key priorities that people are concerned about.

Port Coquitlam is also a very special community this year because this year will be the 100th anniversary of our first May Day, which was held in PoCo back in 1923. For the last 100 years, we have celebrated May Day in our community.

It’s an extremely popular, well-attended event, with a May Queen and an ambassador and maypole dancing. It’s a huge community celebration with a parade that will come through the downtown, and it’s an opportunity for our community to really get together. It’s something that I know the city is really looking forward to this year, and I know that I am. It is an honour to….

When I think about it, I attended the first May Day parade back in 1969. So I’ve attended…. There have been 100 of them — this year. I will have attended more than half of them. I think that’s pretty special.

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I encourage…. If you happen to be in PoCo around that time, come and see our May Day parade, because it really is a very special occasion.

This brings me, of course, to the throne speech and why it matters. Ours is a growing community. Ours is a young family community. If you look at the demographics of our community, it has a larger-than-average family size compared to many other ridings in the province of British Columbia, because it has been an affordable community. So education is of critical importance to my community.

We have two very good school trustees from my riding, Michael Thomas and Christine Pollock, who do a really good job. There has been significant growth in the member for Coquitlam–Burke Mountain’s riding and schools being built there, but I also want to acknowledge that we’ve had some really great school developments taking place.

We opened up Irvine. I know the former Minister of Education was there for that announcement — the member for Peace River South. He and I attended that, and it was a great opportunity for me, to go to the opening of that school. We’ve done additional improvements to the school system, in terms of new middle schools and upgrading of schools. All of those things are of crucial importance.

Our throne speech continues the work that we have done over the last seven years in investing and ensuring that education remains a priority for the people of Port Coquitlam so we’re able to ensure that not only do kids get a quality education but that we’ve got the facilities there that are required to ensure that takes place. I’m really pleased our government is going to continue on that work.

At the same time, we know that people have been facing many challenges in terms of the cost of living that we have seen, certainly over the last year, with inflation running at more than 7 percent and how that has impacted families right across this province — indeed, right across the country.

There have been a number of factors for that. Obviously, COVID and the pandemic had a significant impact in terms of supply chains and choking supply off. We have seen the horrific invasion of Ukraine by Russia and the impact it has had on commodity prices and the volatility that has created — and supply shortages. All of those things have come together to see that prices have increased significantly.

With that have been attempts by governments — the Bank of Canada, for example — to try and get inflation under control. That, of course, has led to a rise in interest rates, which has created challenges for families in my community and communities across the province and, indeed, across the country.

Our government has recognized this and taken steps to deal with some of these challenges. The throne speech outlines that is still going to continue to be a priority for our government as we move forward, not only into this session but the fall session and in the coming years. We have seen initiatives such as the hydro tax credit to help with increased energy costs that families have been facing. We have seen efforts to assist with seniors. We have seen efforts to ensure that things such as insurance rates are made more affordable.

In my role as Minister for ICBC, to be able to see those cheques and the rate reductions go out to people, I think, has been something that has made me very pleased. I know it’s made my constituents very happy to see insurance rates go down, on average, by about 20 percent. Then to see the rebates, totalling well over $1 billion, going back into the pockets of the motoring public in B.C., I think, has been extremely important and is something that helps people deal with the cost pressures they have been facing.

Our initiatives, in terms of helping people deal with affordability, deal with the increase that we see at the grocery store, the increase that we see in terms of….

[5:50 p.m.]

Whether it’s fuel, whether it’s hydro — all of those things have been front and centre in our efforts to ensure that government is in tune with what people are having to deal with and how we can make life more affordable and deal with the cost escalations that I have mentioned, that have been part of a global challenge for us here in our province.

At the same time, we know that health care is of critical importance to all British Columbians. That’s why a priority in our throne speech, obviously, is protecting health care, is ensuring that British Columbians get the quality health care, that they get it when they need it. That’s why we’ve seen the expansion of urban urgent care centres across the province. That’s why we have seen the investments that have taken place in terms of surgeries, being able to deal with the challenges that were caused by the pandemic.

When you look back at the pandemic and the profound impact that it had on this province, on this country and, indeed, globally, the fact that all of us came together to be able to deal with that challenge and to be able to ensure that our health care system was able to function, that British Columbians were still able to get the health care services that they required, even under challenging circumstances, is really quite remarkable.

It really says something about our province and how we saw people come together to be able to recognize: “You know what? You needed to get vaccinated.” We needed to wear masks. We needed to listen to our public health officials and follow public health orders to be able to do the right thing.

The overwhelming majority of the people in this prov­ince did just that. Sure, there were a few groups or people who didn’t want to, who felt they knew better, who thought that QAnon was the place to get health information, that somehow ivermectin was some sort of cure, that it would work. I would get emails from some of these individuals, and it was like: “No, no, no. It’s about science. It’s about health professionals who know what they’re doing. It’s about listening to public health officials. It’s about listening to the health experts.”

British Columbians did that. That’s why we came through the pandemic with a record which I think is very much an envy of many other jurisdictions, certainly in North America and in other parts of the world, especially when you look at the size of our province. It’s because of the dedicated health care workers. It’s because of the dedicated health professionals. It’s because of the leadership from our public health officials that helped us to get through that.

Of course, it did create challenges. It created challenges in terms of surgeries. It created challenges, sometimes, in terms of access. But again, government worked hard to ensure that those surgical backlogs…. We were able to deal with them, and we have been.

The throne speech speaks to…. We need to continue that work. We need to continue to build on the challenges of a growing population, an aging population that we need to recognize, with the number of people moving to British Columbia. I mean, this is such an amazing province. Peo­ple want to come here.

My own community, as I said, has grown from 10,000 when I first moved there to over 60,000 now and is still growing. We see the growth in the province. The fact that we’re seeing the redistribution…. That population growth is going to add six more seats in this chamber. It’s because we have a dynamic economy. We have a dynamic province. That brings lots of benefits, but as I said, it also brings challenges, health care being one of them.

That’s why it’s been so important — the work that’s being done by the Premier and the Health Minister in terms of working with Ottawa to get them to understand the need for additional health care funding for our province. We have watched the share of federal funding in our province decrease over time, and if it keeps on going the way it was, it would be down 15, 16 percent. That’s not acceptable.

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That is not acceptable, but British Columbia has played a constructive role under the leadership of our former Premier, the member for Langford–Juan de Fuca, in terms of working with other Premiers on getting the federal government to the table to acknowledge and recognize that health care funding is critical to not just British Columbia but all Canadians. It’s important that they are fulfilling their responsibility with that additional funding. I think we are all looking forward to that, and that will help significantly.

At the same time, we also need to recognize there have been issues and concerns around public safety. That’s why we brought through our safer communities initiative, our safer communities plan, to be able to deal with some of the challenges that people are facing in Vancouver, for example, or in Nanaimo or in other in other communities.

[J. Tegart in the chair.]

What we’re seeing is that we have seen a rise in certain types of crime related to a number of issues. For example, the terrible situation regarding addictions and the mental health challenges and addiction crisis that we have because of the toxic drug supply, the toxic opioid crisis that we have seen that, in fact, was exacerbated by COVID in a way that I don’t think anybody quite foresaw.

We were making good progress prior to the advent of the COVID pandemic. Then, with the pandemic, we saw an increase in deaths. This government has been working incredibly hard.

Our Ministry of Mental Health and Addictions has been working incredibly hard to be able to deal with that situation, to get that under control, the initiatives that we’re taking in terms of trying to ensure that people get the treatment that they need — working with the federal government on issues such as decriminalization, working to ensure that we’ve got facilities in communities, such as exist in Coquitlam and that we need to see in other parts of the province, so people have the ability to get the treatment when we need it.

That, again, is what our throne speech speaks to. I know, in the coming weeks and months, the initiatives around that will continue to be unveiled. That is something that I think all British Columbians want to see happen. I know, certainly, the work that we have seen in this House is something that I hope all members will continue to support.

I can tell you that as Solicitor General, working with police agencies in our province to be able to put in place measures that will assist them has been very rewarding. It’s been incredibly important work, and I look forward to continuing to do that. That’s why I’m glad that the throne speech has got a focus on public safety, and that’s why I will be looking forward to the budget when that comes down, in terms of the initiatives that are underway.

Work that has taken place to date, I think, is very much showing the direction that we are heading, initiatives such as expanding the car programs that are in a number of communities in our province, the additional $3 million that our government has committed to that.

The creation of peer-assisted care teams, based on the programs that we have had in the North Shore and in New Westminster, for example, have shown great promise, have shown a reduction in calls that police have had to attend, where you have had people with lived experience, peer-assisted teams and mental-health professionals, going out doing an initial assessment and, many times, being able to deal with the situation without having to involve the police but obviously able to make that decision that the police do need to be involved and call them. That coordination takes place, and then the police arrive.

What we have seen so far is that it is highly successful, and we’re looking to expand that program. We will be expanding that program across the province.

Those kinds of initiatives come about from working with police and police agencies and mental health workers and people who have experience in dealing with addictions and dealing with the challenges that too many people in this province, indeed across this country — in fact, North America — face. It is something that I think all of us are concerned about.

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At the same time, we also know, and it has been mentioned in the throne speech, we want to make sure we continue our battle and our efforts against organized crime, for example. We have had success in this province on a number of fronts in dealing with that and changes that have come about through the Cullen commission and the changes that were put in place following the Cullen report into money laundering in British Columbia. A number of legislative changes have already taken place, and there will be more.

We have announced in the throne speech that there will be work. There will be legislation regarding unexplained wealth orders. This is something that I look forward to bringing before this House and having passed. There are initiatives that have been put in place already in the U.K., for example, and in Ireland and in Australia as well as Manitoba. I think that that will be an additional useful tool for police, and it sends a strong signal to organized crime that in British Columbia we take this issue very seriously.

It builds on the work that we have been doing. For example, initiatives such as the first witness protection program designed for British Columbia, designed for the unique circumstances of our province, that the federal legislation — while important and is still there in place — did not necessarily deal with the challenges that we faced here in British Columbia. So that initiative, which this government brought forward, has been highly successful.

Along with that — the investments, for example, in the province’s first and own forensic laboratory to deal with firearms. We were having to send firearms to Ottawa, to the national forensics lab there. And the reality is that that takes time. It’s much better when we have our own here in British Columbia to be able to do the investigation, to speed up an investigation, to be able to, hopefully, result in a stronger case and a stronger prosecution. All of those things are initiatives that this government has undertaken.

I also want to take this opportunity to talk about something that is of critical importance. I know it is certainly to rural British Columbia, smaller communities in British Columbia, but also to a number of specialized teams. And that is the historic funding by this government in terms of the 277 RCMP positions that we will be filling over the next three years. It is unprecedented in terms of the size of the investment and the number. In fact, we’ve had comments from other provinces, like…. Their reaction is: “Wow, wish we could do this in our province.”

This will help ensure that smaller communities in rural British Columbia have the police resources that they need, that too often, you know, have seen significant growth, particularly outside their communities. I know it’s an issue that has been raised by my colleagues across the way up in the Peace country. I’ve met with the mayor a number of times about the growth outside the city and how that puts a strain on their resources. This will help that.

It will also help the integrated teams. It will help the integrated teams so police are able to deal with some of the surge capacity that sometimes is required. It will ensure that traffic highway patrol, in particular, for example, will be able to benefit.

I know, meeting recently with the mayor and chief administrative officer of your community, hon. Speaker, of Merritt, that that was an issue that they raised with me — the challenge they have in terms of the highway patrol on the main highway that runs through your riding. They were very pleased with being able to know that this funding is going to be able to help deal with those kinds of problems.

We have already been in contact with the RCMP, for example, and this is going to be something where the province will be working with the RCMP as to where those officers go. So very much in terms of “okay, what are the priority areas? Where are the challenges?” That’s what we want to do to ensure that…. That’s what this throne speech is about.

[6:05 p.m.]

That will build on the work that has been done in the past. We were able to put in place, a few years ago now, the surge capacity — in Terrace, in Prince George and in Kamloops — of the additional police officers that are able to help. This investment will have, in my view, a significant impact on the provincial policing line, particularly in small communities and rural British Columbia. I think that is critically important.

At the same time, one of the areas in the throne speech that we view as a priority is, obviously, our partnership with Indigenous peoples. As it relates to my ministry, again, this is an area where Indigenous communities have made it very clear to me that they want to see a focus, they want to be able to have the resources that they need for public safety in their communities.

There have been a number of nations which I have met with — either at UBCM, for example, or at the First Nations leadership gathering — that have made having additional police resources of critical importance to their communities. Many of them are remote. Many of them are communities that have difficult transportation routes to get to. The lack of police resources, or police having to travel a significant distance, often means that they don’t have the support that they are entitled to and that they should have.

I’ve made it clear that I want to see resources going in that ensure that they get the policing that they need. It also means working with the federal government to expand Indigenous policing in this province, and Indigenous policing opportunities. A number of nations have indicated to me, for example, that they would like RCMP. Others have indicated that they would like to start to move to be able to have their own Indigenous policing.

I was pleased, during the pandemic, that we managed to get the federal government to fulfil its responsibility in fully funding the Aboriginal policing component that they are required to do. British Columbia was doing its part and in fact was doing more. There was a shortfall, the feds stepped up, and it was because of the work within my ministry to make sure that they did that.

I can see, hon. Speaker…. I could go on about the throne speech and all its things, how great this throne speech is.

Interjection.

Hon. M. Farnworth: It is a while since I have done a throne speech, which is why I’ll probably come back to where I started off in the beginning, in the few remaining moments that I have left: talking about my community of Port Coquitlam, the place that I have called home since 1969. As I said, we’ve got the 100th May Day coming up.

The thing that amazes me about it is…. It’s funny, because I was talking with my brother today. Over time — I’ve noticed it, really, as I get older — the people that I knew when I was young, the people who we looked up to, are passing on. My brother was informing me today that the father of a friend of mine that we all knew as kids had passed away recently, last week, at the age of 88. There’s a celebration of life on Saturday.

Then I had to remark to him that our neighbour that we knew from down the street had passed away a couple of months ago, and somebody else, our neighbour across the street, just recently. We thought about that. It’s like the people that we grew up with and that we looked to, our parents’ generation, are moving on, are passing on, and we’re the ones now who are that generation.

We talked about how…. As my brother said, “You know, I go downtown PoCo now, and I go down Shaughnessy Street, and it’s so different than when we were kids. When we were kids, it was low-rise bungalows, built after the war. You’d just walk down….”

[6:10 p.m.]

Now it’s all four-storey walk-ups, and the community has changed, but what hasn’t changed is that sense of community spirit. That sense of community spirit was there when Port Coquitlam was started in 1913 as Westminster Junction. Then it became Port Coquitlam, the terminus of the spur line that went to New Westminster, and the railway yard was there, the CP railway yard.

The people built that community. Their kids carried on and built that community. Today, those of us who grew up there…. Many of us are still there. Lots of friends I went to school with are still there. They’ve raised their families there. That sense of community spirit is there. That sense of a small town, which is, I think, one of the things people recognize about Port Coquitlam is still very much there.

We have an amazing downtown, which is undergoing some really important revitalization, under the leadership of our mayor and council. It’s a place I call home. It’s an amazing community, and I know this throne speech is going to really help it.

With that, I see 19 seconds left, so I will let other members of the House continue. Thanks very much.

G. Chow: I’d like to start with an acknowledgment to the Lək̓ʷəŋin̓əŋ peoples, the Songhees and Esquimalt First Nations upon whose territory we are gathered today and to thank them for sharing these lands.

I’m supposed to be talking about the throne speech, which was a great throne speech. The previous speaker, the Solicitor General, has already touched upon many of the points.

Certainly, I’d like to also thank my constituency assistants, Kimmy Kular and Forest Chu, for doing such a great job in my office, which allows me to be sitting here and doing my job in Victoria. There are two things that the CAs have to do. The first one is to listen to the constituents patiently. The other is to summarize the one succinctly for my benefit, because then I know what’s going on, in the shortest possible time, so that we can all work to help. Both of them do this very well, and I’m very, very thankful and impressed.

Yesterday, I heard, the member for Parksville-Qualicum came on and said that he may be the second-youngest member in this chamber. If that were the case, I might be the second-oldest member in this chamber. For that, Madam Speaker, would I get double the time to speak? I’m just testing the water. Obviously, being engineers, we are precise and concise, and we don’t need all that time in order to burn up half an hour. Anyway, thank you.

I do echo what the Solicitor General was saying: during COVID, a lot of things had gone on. A lot of those in my riding had passed. Particularly, just before Christmas, one of my great supporters, Karen Jacobson, who was the chair of the Killarney Community Centre Association, passed away. That was really sad for me, because she had always been supportive. She’d done a lot for the community — as well as her husband, who had passed a few years ago, Keith Jacobson. He had also been the chair of the Killarney Community Association.

We have all these people that help us, and our job, of course, is to help them. I’m very happy to say that this throne speech, which is being debated and talked about, is great. This throne speech outlines our government’s plan to tackle the big challenges and build a stronger, more secure future for everyone. In this time of uncertainty and challenges, our government is working hard, has been working hard and is working hard for all British Columbians.

[6:15 p.m.]

Some of the points, just to recap, that were in the throne speech and that we want to accomplish are helping the people with costs by introducing new measures to help everyone; targeted support for those hardest hit, including those with low incomes and families with children — that’s certainly very important for us; and tackling the housing crisis by getting tough on speculators, while launching the first middle-class housing strategy and increasing homes and services near transit hubs across the province.

In my riding of Vancouver-Fraserview, which is Fraser Street to Boundary Road, and also 49th Avenue to the river — we are the southeast corner of Vancouver, right next to Burnaby — we have a new area called River District. It’s a site that’s about 15 acres and is now being built out. It used to be a lumber mill and factories, and now it’s being built with all kinds of housing, condos. It’s really the only area where we have highrises in my riding.

I was surprised that some of the people have said: “Hey, this is the most affordable area in Vancouver.” Even at that, it’s pretty expensive. So our government is doing what we can in building affordable housing, in partnership with the federal government, in the River District.

The other, of course, is strengthening public health care after the pandemic by investing in new hospitals and a new medical school and getting internationally trained doctors and health workers into our clinics to provide care to British Columbians.

We’re mindful of the fact that our population is aging. In Vancouver-Fraserview, in the city of Vancouver, we have the highest number of seniors living in Vancouver. That’s in my riding. It’s very, very important that we make sure we strengthen our public health care system, including looking after our seniors.

Another thing in the throne speech is about making our communities safer, with actions to get violent offenders off the street and new laws to crack down on gangs, money laundering and non-consensual distribution of intimate images. That’s certainly very important, as you have witnessed. Teens are being harassed online, and some of them have actually got into a suicidal situation. That’s one aspect with regard to the youth.

Of course, we have been doing a lot of work in the Downtown Eastside. This is a priority of the Premier. Even before the throne speech came out, we had been working on the Downtown Eastside. The Premier, the member for Vancouver–Mount Pleasant and I have been meeting in the Downtown Eastside with the merchants, the Chinatown merchants, the service providers in the Downtown Eastside, as well as the Indigenous leaders in that area. We are working on that.

Particularly with Chinatown, I’m very proud of what our B.C. NDP government has done in building the Chinese Canadian Museum, which will open in July this year. This was mentioned in the throne speech. In spite of some comments coming from the opposition that we’re not doing anything, we’re actually doing a lot with our actions. The Premier has gone down and met with the merchants, met with the service providers and met with the Indigenous leaders and people. We have a plan. This is where we’re going forward.

[6:20 p.m.]

If you look to…. I want to go back to the fact that I inherited this riding. The last member who was from the B.C. NDP was in 1996. The late Ian Waddell was actually the member for Vancouver-Fraserview. He passed in 2021, and because of COVID, we did not have a celebration of life until 2022. He was a great MLA, a great MP. His contribution to the riding, to the tourism and film industry, was tremendous.

Also, if you really look at what we, the NDP government, have done for Chinatown, we did it with action. If you go back to the ’70s, the idea of the Chinese Cultural Centre was actually an idea by the late Alex Macdonald, who was the Attorney General at the time under Dave Barrett, the late Premier. That was his idea, and that got the community started and built the Chinese Cultural Centre.

Later on, the Chinatown parkade was an idea of the city council but was actually finished by Premier Harcourt. The Chinese Cultural Centre Museum is also a product of the B.C. NDP government. It was done under Premier Glen Clark, as well as Block 17 in Chinatown. Block 17 in Chinatown is the big building that’s beside the Millennium Gate. It houses the SUCCESS office and a seniors home, the Vancouver Chinatown Merchants Association building and also a building project called the CBA housing manor that houses seniors.

All these projects were done under the B.C. NDP government. So we do work by actual action, not just going down there, taking a few photos and then posting online and saying: “Hey, we’re doing great in the area.” Quite the contrary. I think a lot of it is just talk.

That’s what we did. I’m very happy that we finished the Chinese Canadian Museum. It will be open in time, actually, for us to remember Chinese immigration, the Chinese Exclusion Act that was put forward 100 years ago in 1923. It will be a very good exhibit. UBC is working…. Professor Yu is working with a student, along with Catherine Clement, to put on a great exhibit based on that part of the history.

The other thing we’re embarking on is fighting climate change and building an economy for everyone by launching a plan that will give British Columbians the skills to fill the jobs of today and tomorrow, expanding our low-cost, clean energy solutions and working in partnership with Indigenous peoples. That is great.

What we have been doing in the throne speech, and it was mentioned here, is we are working with the forest sector to ensure a sustainable industry going forward to retool mills and manufacture value-added products, including those that replace plastics made from fossil fuels.

I was very happy to work with the now Minister of Housing on trying to get an industry going here using the wood that we have. That’s the mass timber project. Mass timber is engineered wood that is glued together in order to allow the wood to take more load and also span longer. It is the future of building. It’s very competitive with concrete buildings because the overall life cycle of mass timber is much better than building with concrete.

Nowadays the federal government as well as the B.C. building code allows us to build to 12 storeys high. Of course, our UBC did the research and rebuilt a building that is 18 storeys high, which is the highest in the world so far. Mass timber is the future. We also have private developers who are building with mass timber over in North Vancouver, in Coquitlam, and these buildings are finished and they’re being sold.

Of course, we are also embarking on building student residences using mass timber. I think the mass timber future is bright. We could build schools, community centres, particularly apartments, using mass timber, and I think that would be a great future for us.

[6:25 p.m.]

I think we are doing what we can in order to help British Columbia in this uncertain time, and I would very much like to thank my family for their support through the years. Last year was the 20th year since I entered politics. I went into politics running for city council in 2002, and it’s been 20 years.

It’s been a long time. I can remember, when I first started, my wife and kids were really, really helpful. My wedding anniversary falls in October, so that means every time we have an election, we miss the anniversary because that’s the time we’d be campaigning. I would tell my wife: “Well, let’s have dinner.” But this would be a community dinner at some Chinese restaurant, and that’s how we celebrated our wedding anniversary. That’s certainly a great sacrifice from my wife and my kids who are helping me with the campaign.

I thank you for the opportunity to speak, and I look forward to us putting our words into action.

Hon. B. Ralston: It’s a pleasure to rise and speak in response to the Speech from the Throne delivered February 6, 2023. I think what I want to talk a little bit about is what people in my riding of Surrey-Whalley, in the north part of Surrey, are experiencing and what’s on their minds and how this speech, in particular, responds to those concerns they have expressed.

I would say that top of mind and among the concerns that I hear is cost of living. Certainly, I think everyone has been touched by the inflation that occurred recently. Although there are some signs that it might be abating, it certainly had an impact on family budgets and business planning. That’s something that I hear from people in my part of the world.

The speech does address, in part, some of those concerns. The B.C. affordability credit landed in bank ac­counts at the start of the new year and helped 85 percent of British Columbians with increased costs. As much as $410 for a family of four went to British Columbians last month.

Another area where the government has responded to the concerns… I know it’s not only in my riding that people have expressed these concerns about cost of living, but basic car insurance rates have been frozen for another two years, and the Premier announced a $100 credit on people’s hydro bill. Although some may dismiss that as a very small amount, I think for some families, certainly in my riding…. The medium per-capita income is certainly not among the highest in the province. That was appre­ciated and recognized as some relief from some of the cost pressures that families are experiencing.

Also, in December of 2022, just last year, child care costs were reduced again, this time by as much as more than $550 a month for each child or $6,000 a year in additional savings. This has really had an impact. In a community of working families such as I represent, that kind of change in the cost of child care has really been life-changing for many parents in my community.

[6:30 p.m.]

These are some of the cost measures that the government has undertaken in response to the concerns that people have expressed.

People also, I think, are concerned about…. I remember that on child care, there was an announcement made at Surrey city hall, which is in my riding, including new spaces for infants and toddlers. Those are the most expensive spaces to service, because the level of care needed by an infant or a toddler, as one can well imagine, is more intense than that perhaps required by an older child. And 49 spaces for children 2½ years to kindergarten age. Again, Surrey city hall is located in Surrey-Whalley. That an­nouncement was made very recently in Surrey.

In addition to that, there was an important announcement made. I think this reflects concerns that people have about housing. That was a pretty spectacular announcement, because it combined a number of concerns. Whalley legion, 229, has been engaged in the process of planning and building a replacement for their own facilities, but on the site that the veterans very prominently acquired just after the Second World War in the heart of the riding and now in the heart of the city centre. That site was redeveloped, and the announcement was of a tower with a really innovative mix of services.

One of the services is accessible housing for veterans and for first responders. That was a contribution of $13 million made by the B.C. Housing organization. In addition to that, led by the legion and others, there’s a centre working together with Fraser Health and with first responders and some visionary physicians in Surrey, a centre which will treat disabled veterans who have been affected either physically or mentally.

As I think many recognize, there’s a challenge in veterans experiencing post-traumatic stress disorder.

[Mr. Speaker in the chair.]

This clinic will treat the whole person, in the sense of people who have profound physical injuries and people who have experienced the mental stress and strain and resulting illness that comes from the stresses of either responding as a first responder or in combat. One attaches no blame to them, but it is a reality of returning veterans and of people who are affected by traumatic events during their work as a first responder.

It’s open now, as part of this facility, so veterans will be able to come. First responders will be able to come and be there on a day patient basis. But if they require a more detailed and longer treatment plan, they will be able to reside in some of these units and get ongoing treatment there.

In addition, there is family housing for families, there is a child care centre, and then there’s also a component of market housing as well. This project and its ability to unite and weave together in a collaborative way all these disparate elements is really quite an innovative project. I think it will be…. Certainly, the Deputy Minister of Veterans Affairs was at the opening, along with the usual array of community leaders, from the legion, from the health district…. The mayor of Surrey was there.

[6:35 p.m.]

Randeep Sarai, the federal MP. I was there on behalf of the province. City councillors. The police and fire service were represented as well. VRS Communities is an operator that will run the accessible units as well. So a really spectacular achievement.

There’s another tower to be built. The work is only half done, but I think it’s something that everyone who participated in bringing this project to fruition was really proud of. I’m delighted to be able to say that it’s in my riding, in Surrey. It will be a beacon across the country, a model of the kind of care that we want to give to veterans and to first responders in the future. So a very successful day.

I’m pleased to be able to say that the province participated and contributed as one of the funders of this project. It’s, of course, part of a broader housing plan, but I wanted to talk about that particular project as well.

The other announcement that was made just recently in Surrey was an announcement made by the Premier and the Minister of Municipal Affairs on Friday, February 10. A fund of $1 billion has been set aside for municipalities, and it’s targeted at municipal infrastructure. Not all the details have been released.

There will be a formula that will be based on per capita — I think the minimum any community will get will be $500,000 — and then a formula based on the growth of the community, based on the Canadian census data, between 2016 and 2021. That combination will be provided…. Funds, according to that formula, will be provided to every community and every regional district in the province.

Part of that is to accommodate, in particular, the pressures on growing communities. I think every community certainly has projects that they want to undertake on behalf of their citizens, whether it’s a new playground, a walking trail, a bike path or, in some cases, a capital project or a project that is bigger, new rinks, new recreational facilities.

The city of Surrey has a very extensive capital project list, which they’ve shared with me. They’ve certainly got a lot of proposals and a lot of plans that are on the books. We’ll see, when the announcement is made, how the share that goes to any individual community is made. I’m optimistic that Surrey will be given its per capita, its size, in terms of population, and its growth. It will be a recipient of a major part of this fund. There will be opportunities to spend this on good projects that will benefit the citizens of Surrey and every other community throughout the province.

Some have questioned…. What is the mechanism for accountability? Because it will be given at year-end, there will be no formal requirements. What municipalities will be expected and asked to do is to set that money in a segregated fund, which will be provided with their audited financial statements at year-end. So it would be an audited financial statement at year-end setting out what any individual municipality has done with the money that they’ve been granted.

I think that publicity or that disclosure, which will be required, will certainly alleviate any concern that some may have that municipalities might not spend the money wisely. Frankly, speaking for myself and having met many municipal officials across the province, I would say, to a person…. They are well motivated, know their communities, have projects that they want to see funded. They will take this opportunity to undertake those projects with dispatch and with enthusiasm.

[6:40 p.m.]

I see the Speaker is shifting in his chair.

Interjection.

Hon. B. Ralston: Pardon me?

I do have a few more things that I want to say, although I have a colleague….

Interjection.

Hon. B. Ralston: I’m told I have five minutes.

Interjection.

Hon. B. Ralston: Oh, okay. Well, then, perhaps I should….

Interjections.

Hon. B. Ralston: I’m going to have to abbreviate my remarks. There seems to be a lot of support for that, Mr. Speaker.

I want to end by saying that I wholeheartedly support the Speech from the Throne. I’ve given some examples, I hope, of the wise decisions that have been made with the public funds to advance the interests of the citizens of my community and of British Columbia as well.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

J. Rice: I promise that I’ll keep my remarks shorter than my introduction yesterday. I just wanted to squeak this out. I’ve been losing my voice all week.

I would love to brag about my community, which we have the opportunity to do in the throne speech. I have a dozen local governments and probably a dozen First Nations. I’d love to talk about all of them, but I know we have a few minutes.

I just wanted to take this opportunity…. I was recently appointed the Parliamentary Secretary for Rural Health, and I’ve certainly heard from some of the stakeholders and some folks from the opposition that they haven’t heard much from me. I just wanted to let people know that when I have more of a voice…. I’m happy to have much more constructive conversations about the work that I intend to undertake or that I’ve already started doing.

I just wanted to say this, mostly for my constituents, my rural remote and my rural Indigenous communities. Having lived 20-some years rurally and having been the MLA for rural remote and Indigenous communities for the last nine years, I have certainly heard about the struggles for accessing equitable, safe, accessible health care in the North and in Haida Gwaii and down the Central Coast. That’s the area of my riding. We’ve certainly heard a lot of other rural remote and rural Indigenous communities expressing their angst.

I was really delighted that the Premier appointed me the Parliamentary Secretary for Rural Health so that I actually could complement and support our current Minister of Health in that work, applying the rural lens, which I unquestionably have, based on my geography and where I live.

I want you to know that I’m keen. I hear you. I live rural. I hear you, rural. I’m motivated for rural.

I have been tasked with three areas to look at, which are access, travel, when it comes to accessing medical appointments, and rural maternity and obstetrical care. We’ve seen a centralization of health care that makes it harder to birth at home. I actually get to help support the minister in regard to a health human resources strategy. These are my areas of focus for right now. I’m super excited about them.

I’m happy to work with the opposition — not a problem. Let me get my voice back. I just wanted to make that introduction to my role. I didn’t mean to appear silent. I’m keen.

Thank you for allowing me this couple of minutes here, on the throne speech, to introduce myself.

Mr. Speaker: Hon. Members, seeing no further speakers, the Chair will now put the question on the Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne.

The question is: “We, His Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia in session assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious speech which Your Honour has addressed to us at the opening of the present session.”

Division has been called.

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Motion approved on the following division:

YEAS — 46

Alexis

Anderson

Babchuk

Bains

Beare

Begg

Brar

Chandra Herbert

Chant

Chen

Chow

Conroy

Coulter

Dean

Dix

Donnelly

Dykeman

Elmore

Farnworth

Glumac

Greene

Heyman

Kahlon

Kang

Leonard

Ma

Malcolmson

Mercier

Osborne

Paddon

Popham

Ralston

Rice

Routledge

Routley

Russell

Sandhu

Sharma

Simons

Sims

A. Singh

R. Singh

Starchuk

Walker

Whiteside

 

Yao

 

NAYS — 23

Banman

Bernier

Bond

Clovechok

Davies

Doerkson

Falcon

Kyllo

Letnick

Merrifield

Milobar

Morris

Oakes

Paton

Ross

Rustad

Shypitka

Stewart

Stone

Sturdy

Sturko

Tegart

 

Wat

Hon. R. Kahlon moved adjournment of the House.

Motion approved.

Mr. Speaker: This House stands adjourned until 10 a.m. tomorrow.

The House adjourned at 6:58 p.m.