Fifth Session, 41st Parliament (2020)
OFFICIAL REPORT
OF DEBATES
(HANSARD)
Tuesday, February 25, 2020
Morning Sitting
Issue No. 314
ISSN 1499-2175
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CONTENTS
Routine Business | |
Orders of the Day | |
Budget Debate (continued) | |
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2020
The House met at 10:06 a.m.
[Mr. Speaker in the chair.]
Routine Business
Prayers and reflections: J. Sims.
Introductions by Members
G. Kyllo: We’re joined in the House today by a couple of good friends, Rex Landis and Bill Miller. They’re with Habitat for Humanity, bringing affordable housing projects to the city of Kamloops, Salmon Arm and Enderby — just a few of the communities in the interior of B.C. Would the House please make them feel very welcome.
Introduction and
First Reading of Bills
BILL M202 — STRATA PROPERTY
AMENDMENT ACT,
2020
T. Stone presented a bill intituled Strata Property Amendment Act, 2020.
T. Stone: I move that the bill intituled the Strata Property Amendment Act, 2020, of which notice has been given in my name on the order paper, be introduced and read a first time now.
There are 30,000 strata corporations in B.C., and nearly half of Metro Vancouver’s residents live in strata housing. In recent months, a growing number of British Columbians have been hit hard with massive spikes in strata insurance premiums, deductibles and fees. Some strata councils have seen their insurance premiums skyrocket by as much as 400 percent. These costs are then downloaded on to residents, many of whom are now paying thousands of dollars more a year in fees.
The Strata Property Amendment Act, 2020, provides for the following: sensible and achievable legislative changes; a clear definition to distinguish between the insurance requirements of a strata unit owner and a strata corporation to better ensure correct insurance product pricing and greater clarity in the claims process; improved disclosure by a strata corporation in response to the request of an owner, a purchaser or a person authorized by an owner or purchaser; strata corporation notification of the terms of the property insurance renewal policy no less than 30 days before the expiration of the insurance policy; and requirement for an owner of a strata lot to obtain and maintain insurance for liability for property damage and bodily injury.
In complement to this bill, we’re also calling on the government to implement a strata water damage prevention program to provide financial incentives for preventative maintenance in strata buildings. This bill provides a series of initial actions to address this problem of skyrocketing strata insurance costs that risk affecting hundreds of thousands of British Columbians.
We urge the government to call this bill for debate so as to act quickly to prevent further escalation of this crisis.
Mr. Speaker: The question is first reading of the bill.
Motion approved.
T. Stone: I move that the bill be placed on the orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today.
Bill M202, Strata Property Amendment Act, 2020, introduced, read a first time and ordered to be placed on orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today.
Statements
(Standing Order 25B)
B.C. LOG AND TIMBER
BUILDING INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION
G. Kyllo: I rise in the House today to recognize the work of the B.C. Log and Timber Building Association, which is a wonderful organization. It is active both in my region and throughout our province.
The B.C. Log and Timber Building Association is a self-funded organization. Their mission is to improve business opportunity, craftsmanship and profitability for British Columbia’s log home and timber frame industry. I recently attended a convention at the Quaaout Lodge just outside of Chase, where a number of companies from across British Columbia came together, including a company from my riding of Shuswap, Canadian Pride Log homes, owned by Peter and Margaret Sperlich.
Since being founded in 1997, the association has been dedicated to presenting the industry to all levels of government. They carry out regular volunteer efforts on behalf of their members, and they promote education and training to strengthen the industry and equip new builders. Additionally, they host conferences, the most recent of which I had the pleasure of taking part in just last week. It was a great opportunity to get to know some of these talented and dedicated individuals who are part of a great organization.
The association and its members are the centre of a value-added wood sector. They build some of the most sustainable homes and commercial buildings on the planet, and they’re incredibly passionate about using their craft to promote sustainability in building around the world.
While the logging timber sector only consumes approximately 0.2 percent of B.C.’s annual log harvest, they create 3 percent of forest sector jobs. When we think about value-added, these are the people that we’re talking about; these are the builders that are living it every single day. They’re extremely hard-working men and women, and they’re largely from family-owned and -operated businesses that have amazing passion for this industry. I want to take this opportunity to thank them for the incredible and cutting-edge work that they do in my community and across British Columbia.
SOCIAL INEQUALITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE
B. D’Eith: Today I rise in the House to recognize the 2020 UN World Day of Social Justice. That was last Thursday, February 20. This year’s main theme is “Combating inequality.”
Throughout history and in every corner of the world, social and economic inequality has been a significant threat to democracy and prosperity. However, the gap between different social groups in our times has reached shocking new heights. Oxfam’s report this year on global wealth disparities taught us that the world’s billionaires, a total of 2,100 people, have the same wealth as the bottom 4.6 billion people.
Of course, it pains me to say it, but we don’t have to look far beyond our borders to see this trend. One of the reasons I ran was because of social justice. One of the reasons that I ran is because one in five children were living in poverty in this province. We are among the world’s top 50 economies. Yet, think about that — one in five.
We can only fight these trends if, as governments, we work for the 100 percent. Here in Canada and throughout the western world, economists and policy-makers thought that cutting taxes to the top wealthy people while reducing social services for the most vulnerable would boost the economy and reduce poverty. Instead, we got levels of inequality not seen in a century. Austerity has also done incredible damage to low-income people throughout the world. These damaging economic theories have made it so that many wealthy western countries, for the first time in a generation, are having the children…. The new generation is having a lower standard of living than their parents, and that’s unacceptable.
B.C., however, is making historic social investments while remaining the only province in Canada with a triple-A credit rating. While some are stuck in dinosaur economic theories that social spending hampers growth, we are demonstrating that the only way to sustainability and equality growing our economy is by investing in developing the potential of our most important asset — our people.
B.C. SUPREME COURT MASTER
IN
KAMLOOPS
P. Milobar: When Master Rob McDiarmid announced his retirement from the Supreme Court seat in Kamloops, the legal community in Kamloops had a couple of concerns: who would fill Master McDiarmid’s considerable shoes, and would the new master still be located in the Kamloops Law Courts?
The ability for local people and their lawyers representing them to access the court without added costs and time with trying to get to Vancouver is very important for equitable access to the judicial system. Fortunately, the decision was made to keep the position in Kamloops. In early December, Master Jennifer Keim was introduced to the community with an official ceremony in Kamloops. This followed her assuming the position in late fall.
Master Keim previously had an almost 20-year career in family law with Fulton and Co. in Kamloops before switching to a more corporate law focus and, ultimately, becoming the general counsel for B.C. Lotteries. A longtime Kamloops resident, deep roots in the community have made her a great choice to fill the role. Master Keim has a long and varied list of groups that she has found time to volunteer with. From her church to her kids’ sports organizations to groups helping the vulnerable in our community, Master Keim is always willing to lend a hand.
The legal community in Kamloops was understandably ecstatic when they discovered that not only would the position stay in Kamloops Law Courts, but it was to be filled with someone already well-engrained in the Kamloops community. I think everyone agrees that she was a great choice. Thanks to the Attorney General for making the appointment.
Although people will see her as Master Keim, moving forward, I’ll still see her as my sometimes bossy, sometimes annoying older sister, however.
NEW HOSPITAL IN SURREY
J. Sims: When it comes to building a new hospital in Surrey, we’re full steam ahead. We’re doing the work, and people in my community are excited to see this commitment after 16 years of inaction. Lately, there has been misinformation circulated about the new Surrey hospital. I want to share what we have done so far.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
J. Sims: We have a location. It’s going to be at 55 Avenue and 180 Street.
Interjections.
[Mr. Speaker rose.]
Mr. Speaker: Members. Order, please.
[Mr. Speaker resumed his seat.]
Mr. Speaker: Member, if I may remind you that the two-minute statements must be non-partisan in every respect.
Member, if you wish to start over?
J. Sims: Yes, I do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is the news I like to share over and over again. When it comes to building….
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
J. Sims: When it comes to building a new hospital in Surrey, we’re full steam ahead. We’re doing the work, and people in my community are excited to see this commitment. Lately, there has been misinformation circulated about the new Surrey hospital. What we have done so far is this: we have a location.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
J. Sims: It’s going to be at 55 Avenue and 180 Street. A 25.4-acre site has been secured for the new hospital. We have approved the concept plan. This project has approval from the Treasury Board.
We’re in the business-planning process, which means we’re working on the clinical services plan. The hospital will include in-patient beds, an emergency department, operating rooms, out-patient services and lab and diagnostic services. Once the business plan is completed, the hospital will then go to tender and then be built.
Those familiar with this process know that the final cost is determined after the competitive bidding process is completed. It is after the competitive bidding process that the total cost will be outlined in budget documents. This is the process for capital projects under this government, and it was the same for the previous government.
We need the hospital in my community. Too many of us spend far too long, sometimes days, in the emergency room and in beds in the hallways. We’re working to get the hospital built as quickly as we can. We’re doing this because it is the right thing to do.
Unlike the previous government, we will build a second hospital in Surrey.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members. Member.
Interjections.
[Mr. Speaker rose.]
Mr. Speaker: Members. Order, please. Members.
[Mr. Speaker resumed his seat.]
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
BUSINESS EXCELLENCE AWARD WINNERS
IN SURREY AND WHITE
ROCK
S. Cadieux: Now for an example of what we’re supposed to do with two-minute statements.
On February 12, 2020, the South Surrey and White Rock Chamber of Commerce held the 21st annual Business Excellence Awards. It’s the case in many communities that this was an evening to celebrate and honour business excellence and the hard-working commitment of people behind the companies.
They were Dream Orthodontics, which has been helping the clients of South Surrey and White Rock achieve beautiful smiles for the past 12 years; Starline Windows, with 1,000 employees, now the largest supplier of windows for highrises in western North America; Greg Timm, an outstanding businessman and a person who contributes thousands of hours as volunteer chair of the Canada Cup softball tournament; Stewart Peddemors, a realtor and restaurant owner and former White Rock city councillor. Stewart believes in giving back, and he’s also an expert pumpkin-carver.
Grey Haven Hobbies and Games owner Adam McCormick opened the shop as a university student and is celebrating 25 years this year. Dr. San Bhatha from Southridge Dental believes in giving back as well, and he’s environmentally conscious. Their office has gone paperless.
Zapoteca Mexican Grill and Seafood, founded by three friends last year, serve traditional authentic Mexican food inspired by the Zapotec Indigenous civilization. The Rotary Club of Semiahmoo — a special shout-out here to my former rotary colleagues. Congratulations.
Addictive Comedy, which uses humour to inspire change surrounding addiction, mental illness, trauma and loss. Save-On Foods, which continues to contribute significant funds in our community — and resources — to several organizations, like the Sources food bank.
Lastly but by no means least, the under-40 winner, Piya Sandhu, owner and chief curator of The Handpicked Home.
Congratulations to all of the winners and nominees. As we saw this weekend, with the Coldest Night of the Year walks in Cloverdale and White Rock bringing in more than $230,000, we have an extremely generous community, and the businesses and business people are a huge part of that success.
On behalf of myself and the member for Surrey–White Rock, a well-deserved congratulations.
BREASTFEEDING AND INDUCED LACTATION
J. Rice: When I envisioned being a parent, breastfeeding my baby felt like a normal and natural thing to do. But with my wife Andrea being the one to carry our child, I thought that role would naturally fall to her as the gestational mother. Later on, I felt like I was missing out. I’m a mom, too, and I should be able to breastfeed my son, I thought. That’s how my journey with induced lactation started.
Inducing lactation as a non-gestational mother involved taking the birth control pill and the drug domperidone, which has a side effect of causing lactation, as well as some herbs such as fenugreek and moringa. Near the end of my wife’s pregnancy, pumping with a breast pump every two to three hours until my son, Lu̓á, was born, I followed what is called the Newman-Goldfarb protocol. Co-breastfeeding allows both my wife and me to share in the breastfeeding responsibility and experience. Induced lactation also allows adoptive parents, parents who have babies via surrogacy and trans moms to breastfeed.
There’s more to breastfeeding than breast milk. There’s an invaluable opportunity for getting to know one another, intimacy and bonding with your child. It’s an experience I have few words for, other than “I love it.”
Many people are surprised that induced lactation is even possible. They’re even more surprised to learn that yes, even men can breastfeed. I want people to know it’s so perfectly natural and possible, by following a lactation protocol like the one I did. I also want health care providers to be informed of this option so that they can be ready to help non-gestational parents induce lactation if they want.
Resources can be found at the Canadian Breastfeeding Foundation’s website. I realize that not everyone would choose this, but they need to know that it’s even possible in the first place to make that decision. That’s why I’m sharing my personal experience.
There’s nothing sweeter than when my baby is suckling, and his little hands flail around and scratch at my breast.
J. Sturdy: I seek leave to make an introduction.
Leave granted.
Introductions by Members
J. Sturdy: I’d like to welcome to the Legislature Chris Wrightson and Sean Easton, who are visiting from my constituency of West Vancouver–Sea to Sky. Chris and Sean are co-executive directors for Zero Ceiling Canada, an organization based in Whistler that is dedicated to improving the quality of life for young people experiencing homelessness, from Vancouver through the Sea to Sky.
Zero Ceiling provides housing, employment, professional support that empowers young people to live healthy and independent lives. This work that Chris and Sean and the entire Zero Ceiling team does is incredibly valuable. It’s an example that can be replicated around the province.
I’d like to welcome them and thank them for the work that they do.
Oral Questions
STRATA INSURANCE COST INCREASES
T. Stone: British Columbians living in condos, townhouses and duplexes all over this province are facing a crisis today. Massive spikes in strata premiums, strata deductibles, strata insurance costs, which are then increasing monthly strata fees, are directly impacting people. But this government has failed to act with any sense of urgency.
Today I tabled a private member’s bill amending the Strata Property Act, which would provide achievable and sensible legislative changes to help bring this growing crisis under control.
My question to the Minister of Housing would be this. Will the Minister of Housing call this bill for debate?
Hon. C. James: Thank you to the member for his interest in this issue.
As we’ve talked about — there is no question — we have concerns for strata owners, for people who own stratas and the worry that they’re having around insurance. This isn’t an issue, as I’ve mentioned before, that’s unique to British Columbia. In fact, this is occurring across the country. We’ve been having discussions with our provincial counterparts as well about the challenges. There are a whole range of issues that are related to this, everything from climate change and the insurance industry itself.
The Minister of Housing and I are engaging with strata associations, with the insurance industry as well. We have also started discussions with the Financial Services Authority — FICOM, people may have known it as before — to look at all the ideas that are there.
The member just tabled the bill. I’m happy to take a look at it and see if there are ideas that we can incorporate into the discussion we’re having.
Mr. Speaker: Kamloops–South Thompson on a supplemental.
T. Stone: Well, the minister committing to ongoing discussions with all of the agencies that she just mentioned is cold comfort to the thousands of British Columbians who really truly feel that they’re at risk of losing their homes. This government has had months to consult with stakeholders to try and identify solutions, yet they have done absolutely nothing to this point. People who live in strata units — again, all over this province — are in crisis mode. Some folks are watching their premiums skyrocket by as much as 400 percent in one year.
In addition to the contents of the bill that we introduced today, the official opposition is also calling on the government to create a strata water damage prevention program. This would be a program that would provide incentives for retrofits that would help mitigate the risk of extensive and costly water damage. This would both help to prevent that water damage from happening in the first place, but it would also have the effect of being taken into account by the insurance underwriters in bringing insurance costs down.
Again, my question to the Minister of Housing would be this. Will she commit to bringing in some sort of program similar to what we’re calling for here in this strata water damage prevention?
Hon. C. James: I wish the member was as committed to dealing with concerns about skyrocketing costs when he was with ICBC. Sadly, we know the pressures that drivers are facing because of the mess that was left us.
To come back to the strata insurance issue and the pressures that people are facing, that’s exactly why we’re having the conversations. There are a range of opinions around what should be done, differences of opinions with some strata owners, differences of opinions with the insurance industry itself. That’s why it’s important to work together to look at what’s going to work, and I’m happy to take a look at the member’s private member’s bill and see if there are some ideas that can be incorporated.
Mr. Speaker: The member for Kamloops–South Thompson on a second supplemental.
T. Stone: Again, British Columbians who live in strata units need action from the government now, not conversations and consultation. It’s time for this government to stand up and to act on behalf of the interests of the thousands of British Columbians who are in strata units.
In Kamloops, my community, one strata corporation has informed me that their premium has gone up by 335 percent year over year. Their deductible for water damage has gone from $5,000 to $250,000. What this means for the folks who live in this strata building is that there is going to be a one-time assessment of $1,000 per strata unit owner, and their monthly strata fees are going to go up $100 per month. That’s a $3,400 total cost over a three-year period that each strata unit owner is going to have to somehow try to come up with.
This strata corporation had this to say: “Through no fault of their own, the strata owners in our building must deal with a major increase in living expenses, way beyond that which reasonable people would have budgeted for. We presume thousands of other condominium dwellers in B.C. face similar additional financial burdens. This is totally unfair and clearly discriminatory.”
Again, we’ve presented some sensible actions in our bill this morning. We’re calling for a strata water prevention damage program. These are sensible, achievable actions that would make a real difference now.
When will the minister stand up and outline for British Columbians that are impacted by these rising strata insurance costs and tell them what your action plan is to address this affordability crisis with stratas in British Columbia?
Hon. C. James: Unbelievable. Unbelievable, coming from the member that left over billions of dollars to ICBC — problems for taxpayers here in British Columbia from that side of the House. For that member on that side to talk about financial burdens while we were left a mess with ICBC is incredible. Just incredible.
We are going to continue to stand up, to be able to address the issue, and to take the time to work with the industry and the strata associations to come up with a solution that works for everyone. That’s the commitment that we make. We don’t leave messes for other people. We fix up the messes that they left behind here in this Legislature.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members. Members, back to question period.
J. Thornthwaite: This is an issue that affects half of Metro Vancouver, including many in North Vancouver, where I live. Asifa Lalji describes her situation: “We thought we were going to get a 40 percent increase…. Then January rolled around...and we found out instead of 40 percent, it’s actually 300 percent.”
It is time this government acted. What does the minister have to say to Asifa?
Hon. C. James: As I said, this is an issue that strata corporations are facing across the country. Rising costs are a challenge. Increased prices, when it comes to real estate, create an additional challenge when it comes to British Columbia. That’s why we’re working hard with the strata associations and the insurance industry. That’s why we’re taking a look at mitigation when it comes to climate action, because, again, that’s a big cost when it comes to rising insurance premiums. That’s why the Financial Services Authority is also engaged in this discussion, along with the Minister of Housing and myself, to look for a solution.
Mr. Speaker: The member for North Vancouver–Seymour on a supplemental.
J. Thornthwaite: As long as this government fails to act, the crisis is only going to get worse. Asifa continues here. “Having a hit like that, where does the money come from?” and “What do you do when all of a sudden you have a $150 or $200 increase to your living expenses every month?”
People cannot wait for NDP consultation. They need action now. What is the minister saying to Asifa?
Hon. C. James: I will, again, say to the member that there are a whole range of ideas that are coming forward on this issue: ideas from the insurance companies, ideas that have come forward from strata corporations, ideas that have come forward from individual owners. We are looking at all of those. We are working with the B.C. Financial Services Authority, and we are looking at a solution that will work for individuals who are facing these kinds of pressures.
I will take a look at the members’ ideas that have come forward and take a look at whether they work for insurance companies and for strata associations as well.
GOVERNMENT SUPPORT FOR TECHNOLOGY
SECTOR AND INDUSTRY
TAX CREDITS
A. Olsen: The future prosperity of our province is in innovation, technology and the knowledge-based economy. Governments around the world know this, and they are aggressively positioning themselves by making strategic investments.
Yesterday I asked a question to try to get a better understanding of where British Columbia is at. So I’ll ask a very important question about innovation funding again.
In the economic framework, the Deputy Minister to the Premier cited an investment of “more than $700 million to technology programming.” In Budget 2020 that was introduced last week, the Finance Minister identified investing in technology and innovation as one of its key areas for sustainable growth. I’m trying to reconcile what this government says it’s doing with what is really happening.
So to the Minister of Jobs, Economic Development and Competitiveness: does the $700 million in technology programming include the Film Incentive B.C. tax credit, the production services tax credit and the interactive digital media tax credit?
Hon. M. Mungall: Thank you to the member again for asking this question. It was very difficult to get an answer out yesterday, due to the opposition’s heckling, so let’s try again today.
Everyone knows in British Columbia that the tech industry is a very important part of our economy. In creative tech, for example, the video games, the animations, the CGI that we see in our movies — a lot of that is being done in British Columbia. But that’s not the only place that tech exists in our economy.
We have artificial intelligence. We have life sciences. We have clean tech, tech like the work that Saltworks is doing to help reduce the environmental footprint in the mining world. There is so much going on. So when we looked at that $700 million, what fed into it was the variety of programs that tech, throughout all of British Columbia, is able to access.
Specifically to the member’s question, I mentioned yesterday that, yes, the interactive digital media tax credit is included in that $700 million that we identified. But when he looks at the budget, there are a few envelopes that then further break down into a multiple variety of tax credits. In those envelopes, we have the digital animation, which we did used to include in that $700 million, as well as the visual effects tax credits. Those all form part of the budget line items that the member is talking about.
Mr. Speaker: The Leader of the Third Party on a supplemental.
A. Olsen: This has been a relatively frustrating experience to get what should be a fairly simple answer.
The reality that we’re dealing with here is that when you say that there’s $700 million going to technology, to include about $637 million of tax credits — which are really important actually, which are critically important to the respective sectors, which include thousands of jobs in the film industry that we should not be positioning ourselves to lose…. We need to be clear about where the money that British Columbians are sending to this government is going. We can’t say….
Interjections.
A. Olsen: That’s never happened before.
I just want to ask…. I need to ask this question. Isn’t it misleading to inflate the innovation spending numbers with tax credits that already exist?
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
Minister.
Members, if we may hear the response to the question.
Hon. M. Mungall: I would say that it’s prudent for a government to look at the variety of programs, tax credits, operating expenditures that it has to support a sector of its economy. That’s the prudent thing to do. That’s what we’ve done, so that we know how we are supporting technology and its growth in this province. We know what we’re doing, so that we know what we can do to improve on that.
This government is committed to seeing the technology sector grow throughout this entire province. It creates family-supporting jobs wherever it lands. We want it to land not just in the Lower Mainland but throughout the province. B.C. has a bright future with the tech industry. We’re going to make that happen.
STRATA INSURANCE COST INCREASES
AND GOVERNMENT POSITION
ON
PUBLIC INSURANCE
M. Polak: Well, the Parliamentary Secretary for TransLink has had an awful lot to say lately. Yesterday she raised the first possible actions we’ve heard from the NDP on the strata insurance crisis. She said: “I wonder whether some kind of public insurance could have been a solution to this serious problem with condo insurance in the market.”
Do the views of the Parliamentary Secretary for TransLink reflect the views of this government?
Hon. C. James: Again, the member is welcome to put her ideas forward, just as the member beside her. We are taking the ideas forward from the industry, from others who want to put forward ideas. That’s why we’re taking the time to make sure that the solutions that we come up with work for strata owners, work for the insurance industry and work for the people who own in those buildings.
Mr. Speaker: The House Leader for the official opposition on a supplemental.
M. Polak: Perhaps the minister missed the point of the question.
In the absence of any direction from this government pointing to actions on the file, we have a member of their government who’s actually proposing something.
The question is: is that the position of this government? She certainly seems to think it might be. I think right now we need to hear if the views of the Parliamentary Secretary for TransLink are going to be rejected for the ridiculous suggestion that they are, or is this something this government is considering adopting?
Hon. C. James: I seem to remember a government previously — I think it was that side — who actually, when they were elected, took on a study to look at private versus public. When it came to ICBC, that was something they wanted to look at. “Should we look at private versus public?” That was something the other side was interested in.
Now we know where they stand on those issues. We are open to bringing forward ideas to find solutions on behalf of stratas and on behalf of the insurance industry. I would welcome ideas from that other side if they wanted to take the time to put them forward.
STRATA INSURANCE COST INCREASES
S. Bond: The question really related to the position of the government, related to another comment by the Parliamentary Secretary for TransLink. But we really want to continue to raise with this government the fact that there are over 30,000 strata corporations in B.C., and nearly half of all the residents in Metro Vancouver live in a strata unit. Thousands of British Columbians have signed a petition. They’ve called on this government to immediately address what they consider to be a crisis.
Michelle Sweet says: “I’m worried for my future. My strata fees are already over $600 a month, and this increase is ridiculous. Please help.” Will the minister get up today…? Michelle can’t wait for consultations, for discussions, for random policy thoughts from the Parliamentary Secretary for TransLink. The government needs to take action now.
Will the minister provide the help that Michelle and thousands of other strata owners are looking for?
Hon. C. James: I have already talked about the concerns that have come forward. We recognize those concerns. We recognize the pressures that stratas are facing. We recognize the urgency that they’re facing. Ideas have come forward from the insurance industry. Ideas have come forward from the strata corporations. That’s why we’re working with the B.C. Financial Services Authority to come up with solutions that work for the people who are facing the pressure.
Mr. Speaker: The member for Prince George–Valemount on a supplemental.
S. Bond: Recognizing the issue is one thing. Doing something is actually another thing. In fact, we appreciate the fact that the minister says she’s going to take a look at what the official opposition has tabled. It makes it very easy for the minister and the government to actually do something.
Rhonda Winter writes: “I am a strata president of 608 units. This increase came out of nowhere, with no chance to budget, and it is devastating to many people. This will devastate the condo economy and way of life.”
What does the minister have to say to Rhonda to explain her government’s lack of action?
Hon. C. James: I know the other side doesn’t want to hear that this issue is being worked on. I know the other side isn’t interested in hearing that discussion. But I will say again, as I’ve been saying to the people that I’ve been talking to, that we have concerns.
We recognize the pressure that stratas are facing. We recognize the urgency of this issue. That’s why we’re doing the work that needs to occur. That’s why we’re taking the information that’s come forward from the strata. That’s why we’re taking the information that’s come forward from the insurance industry. It’s why we’re working with the B.C. Financial Services Authority, who is also responsible for the strata. And that’s why we will take some time to take a look at the member’s bill as well, to see whether there are any ideas that come forward.
I know the other side doesn’t like to work together. I know they don’t like to have discussions with people together. That’s, in fact, what we’re doing to make sure we look at a solution that works for strata owners.
M. Hunt: Marco and his partner are first-time buyers, looking at an older condo in Surrey. He says: “The building just posted a notice that they could not purchase insurance as of January 31. We put down a $10,000 deposit that we can’t afford to lose. We’ve been advised by our bank that it cannot provide a mortgage. What are we supposed to do next?”
Now, I appreciate that the minister is going to take her time and think about this and monitor the situation. Well, Marco can’t wait for another NDP consultation. What is he supposed to do next?
Hon. C. James: Again I say to the member, as I’ve been saying in the discussions I’ve been having with folks who are facing pressures, that we are taking a look at the ideas that are coming forward. We are looking at the urgency of the situation for people who live in condos. It’s a very difficult situation for those individuals.
As I said, the insurance companies have come forward with some ideas. There are differing opinions around what works and what would work for stratas and what would work to ensure that they can be protected, not only in the short-term, but the long-term, as this is not an issue that’s unique to British Columbia. This is, in fact, an issue that is happening across the country. We’re having those discussions as well with our provincial counterparts to look at what kind of solutions they’re taking a look at so we can ensure this works for strata owners in British Columbia.
Mr. Speaker: The member for Surrey-Cloverdale on a supplemental.
M. Hunt: Well, that is just unbelievably cold comfort for this couple that is about to lose $10,000. How many years have they spent raising that $10,000 to be able to put it down as a down payment on the condo? And the minister is going to listen. This is wonderful.
With 30,000 stratas in B.C., half of Metro Vancouver residents living in strata housing, premiums going up by 400 percent and deductibles going up by 2,000 percent, all of my wonderful friends on that side, the Surrey NDP members, are all silent about it as well.
Nothing is happening. Action is needed now. These people are losing their money. How is this minister going to fix it?
Hon. C. James: I find it incredible that we see the other side talking about the fact that they now care about affordability for people in British Columbia — that all of a sudden, they’ve discovered that housing affordability can be a challenge in British Columbia. Where were you when the prices in British Columbia, particularly in Metro Vancouver, went up 75 percent in five years? You were nowhere in addressing the issue. Nowhere. So the other side can talk about the fact that they’ve now discovered that housing is an issue in British Columbia. We got to work when we were elected government to address the issue of housing affordability.
What does that side want to do? They want to get rid of the speculation and vacancy tax. They want housing prices to escalate again, causing more and more pressures not only for the people who own homes in British Columbia but for the businesses and the economy in our province as well.
We are working to find a solution that works for strata owners, but I won’t take any lessons from the other side when it comes to affordability, because we saw prices go up for families in British Columbia. We’re addressing it now.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
J. Johal: I want to remind the Finance Minister before I begin that there were 11,000 fewer condos built in Vancouver in 2019 compared to 2018. You’ve done nothing for affordability. Nothing.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
J. Johal: Nearly 2,000 stratas renew their insurance every single month, and they’re facing skyrocketing increases to premiums, deductibles and monthly fees. Nissa Steen writes: “I live paycheque to paycheque and cannot afford the spike in strata fees due to the insurance cost. We need the government to step in and remedy this problem or I will end up having to move from my home.”
What does the minister have to say to Nissa and the thousands of British Columbians calling on her to act now?
Hon. C. James: Once again, to the member, we are, in fact, working now with strata owners, with the insurance industry, with the B.C. Financial Services Authority, which is also responsible for insurance and for the registering of insurance in British Columbia. We are looking at those issues, working with the communities to be able to come up with a solution. If the members have ideas — as the member says he has an idea in the private member’s bill — we’re happy to take a look at those ideas as well, but we need to make sure that we find a solution that works for the parties involved.
The people who own stratas are facing great pressures. As I said, we have concerns for those individuals. We have concerns for what’s working. That’s why we have to make sure that we come up with a solution that fits their needs.
Mr. Speaker: The member for Richmond-Queensborough on a supplemental.
J. Johal: You know, the minister does raise an important issue. There is a certain urgency to this. Every MLA here, on your side and our side, is getting calls on a daily basis on this issue. One of them is Sheila Falconer. She says: “The huge increases many owners are facing are way too high. It’s not right that this is happening, and we’re asking the government to intervene on our behalf.”
Will the minister explain to Sheila why she refuses to act today?
Hon. C. James: In fact, we have been acting. That’s why we’ve been listening and working with the strata owners. That’s why we’ve been working and listening with the insurance industry. That’s why the ideas that have come forward are ideas that we’re taking a look at. That’s why we’re working with the B.C. Financial Services Authority. It’s why the Minister of Housing and I are working on this file together. It’s because we recognize the pressure. We recognize the concerns that are there.
Housing is a big issue in British Columbia. It was a big issue when the other side was in place, and they did nothing to actually address it. We have taken on the issue of housing, whether it’s supply, whether it’s demand, whether it’s purpose-built rentals, whether it’s bringing in issues to address it.
This is now a challenge that’s being faced across this country. This is not an issue that is unique, as I said, to British Columbia. This is an issue that is being raised by other provinces as well. The issue of climate action and climate change, and the pressures that insurance companies are facing, have caused some of the challenge. There are other issues that are being faced in British Columbia.
It’s exactly why we are bringing together…. Again, I understand the other side doesn’t understand the concept of working together. I understand that. But in fact, we are working with the strata owners. We are working with the insurance companies. We are working with the B.C. Financial Services Authority to address the urgent issue facing strata owners today.
[End of question period.]
Orders of the Day
Hon. M. Farnworth: I call continued debate on the budget.
[R. Chouhan in the chair.]
Budget Debate
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J. Martin: It’s good to be able to provide some commentary, some feedback on Budget 2020. I would like to, first off, acknowledge the good people in Chilliwack, who have given me the honour, the distinction, to be their representative here in the people’s House, in the Legislature.
In particular, I would like to give a shout-out to my stellar staff back home in the constituency office. The first person that anyone sees when they come into my office is the cheery, smiling face of Montana Armstrong. We also have Hank Pilotte, and I have Matthew Hawkins, who looks after the bulk of my social media and, in particular, my videos on Facebook.
We always have so much fun putting those together. We did a recent one where we recognized a couple of the people employed by the business improvement association downtown, who keep the streets spic-and-span clean. I had the privilege of joining them with a vest on, doing my share, picking up a little bit of the rubbish from the night before. It’s just nice to be able to showcase something like that that usually doesn’t get onto the radar.
In addition, I also have to acknowledge my wonderful wife, Margaret, who supports me day in and day out, both here in Victoria and when I’m back in the riding, tending to business. My little guy, the Dude, who is just absolutely thrilled that it’s SPCA Treat Week. I hope everybody has an opportunity to support the BC SPCA in this wonderful endeavour that happens every year at this time.
I also want to thank all of my colleagues in the B.C. Liberal opposition caucus and every other member of the government and of the Third Party for their contributions here.
With Budget 2020, I have to say that for me, personally, it was somewhat underwhelming, because I had some expectations based on the previous week’s throne speech of what might be forthcoming.
As we know, the throne speech is deliberately vague. That’s by design. The throne speech is more of a value statement or a mission statement. It tends to be aspirational, tends to be visionary, without providing any of the actual nuts and bolts or details that would be required to fulfil some of those ambitions.
One thing in the throne speech that particularly got me paying attention and certainly resonated back in Chilliwack was a statement regarding transportation in the Fraser Valley and transportation infrastructure. As we all know, the growth in the Fraser Valley has been off the charts in recent years. So when we heard the government’s throne speech…. I’ll specify.
“Government’s partnerships with local governments means that work is already underway on a long-term vision for transit and transportation in the Lower Mainland. British Columbians can look forward to more options like rapid transit, HOV lanes and commuter rail out to the Fraser Valley, and high-speed rail connections with our neighbours to the south.”
Commuter rail out to the Fraser Valley. Well, that’s something that I’ve heard in my office via email and other types of correspondence dozens and dozens and dozens of times over the last 6½ years. There is an active organization that has been lobbying and championing light rail in the Fraser Valley and has attempted to make the case that this might be the answer to a lot of the problems, the congestion, the amount of difficulties that one has making the commute from the eastern Fraser Valley into the Lower Mainland.
I can tell you that I’ve lost track of how many times I just simply send a quick note to my wife. I say: “Highway shut down.” I mean, it is so routine. It is so regular that there is an accident, an incident, some activity one way or another that causes Highway 1 eastbound, westbound, often multiple times a day, to be shut down, and commuters are delayed for 20 minutes, 45 minutes, sometimes going well beyond an hour and more than that.
I’ve been 2½ hours late sometimes getting into the Lower Mainland because of the goings-on on Highway 1. It’s long been an issue. So when I saw that in the throne speech — commuter rail out to the Fraser Valley and some vague commitments about improving transportation corridors — it was pretty exciting.
I did a little video when I got back, where I asked my constituents: “What do you think of commuter rail? Is this the answer to our difficulty in getting the ability to commute in and out of the eastern Fraser Valley, for goods to be trucked into the Lower Mainland? Would it be better to expand the highway, maybe go to three lanes, four lanes, in each direction?” I asked for some feedback, and I did get a considerable amount of response to that. I’ll be sharing some of those specifics shortly. Again, I’m glad I have the opportunity to bring this forward.
There was nothing in the budget that specified what might be happening with respect to Highway 1 out to the eastern Fraser Valley, even just as far as Abbotsford, never mind Chilliwack. There was nothing in there that was specific to light rail or commuter rail out to the Fraser Valley. That’s mainly what I’d like to pursue.
Now, the government, in the House, said that they’ll be directly engaged with TransLink Transport 2050 consultations and talked about a 30-year regional transportation strategy, working with municipal leaders in the Fraser Valley, B.C. Transit and elsewhere.
The reality is we’ve got about one million more people coming to the Lower Mainland, and the growth, particularly in the region including the Fraser Valley, is going to require an upgraded transportation system. We all know that.
Otherwise, it’s congestion, delay, a hampered air quality. Those of us that have this on our radar are working with mayors, TransLink, stakeholders and others about our options. There’s commuter rail, more lanes, HOV lanes. What’s the actual answer to address the transportation needs of the eastern Fraser Valley? This is something that the budget, again, failed to notice, failed to make a statement about. I think it was a glaring oversight, because the need is not in 2030 or down the road. The need is right now.
I just would like to focus for the moment on that particular issue of transportation out to and from the Fraser Valley. Some of the arguments and the rationalizations and the justifications and the case being made in favour of commuter rail…. The advocates of commuter rail certainly felt somewhat of a boost and a wind in their sails when the throne speech spoke to it.
The Abbotsford mayor, Henry Braun, has been particularly vocal on this in recent times and notes that 300,000 people live east of the Langley border, and that’s expected to increase to 450,000 by 2041 — just a significant growth and strain on existing infrastructure.
The provincial priorities have not really focused on the eastern Fraser Valley. They’re more focused on rapid transit in the Lower Mainland, and Highway 1 widening has not been a priority, particularly extending out to Abbotsford and Chilliwack. Recall the previous government did have a commitment and a capital plan to get this done to bring additional lane capacity all the way out to Whatcom Road, which is just to the east of Abbotsford. It’s not quite all the way to Chilliwack, but you’ve got to get to Abbotsford before you can get to Chilliwack. Well, that’s been put on hold indefinitely, perhaps permanently. I certainly hope not.
The mayor of Abbotsford makes the note that the government has the ability to borrow money for a project of this nature and is encouraging the government to consider the low interest rates and what it would cost for such a project and that this might open up Lower Mainland access to more affordable housing. Like everywhere else, house prices in Chilliwack have skyrocketed, but they are still considerably more affordable than anywhere else in the Lower Mainland. You pretty well have to start moving east into the Interior to find a more preferred affordable housing market.
The mayor of Chilliwack, Ken Popove, is a great guy, and he’s made the case that this would enhance tourism in the area of Chilliwack and the eastern Fraser Valley. John Vissers of South Fraser Community Rail group says that highway widening may not entirely solve regional transportation issues such as gridlock, that the Fraser Valley provides many workers for Surrey, where a line would possibly connect to the Lower Mainland. So there’s a need far beyond the people who reside in Chilliwack for some type of enhancement of transportation to the Lower Mainland and beyond.
Now, not everyone is necessarily a big fan of commuter rail. There are some hesitations about it. This is why I initiated some consultation with constituents. I’ll be quite frank. Not everybody is on board with it. But it was something that was in the throne speech, so I am anxious that at some point, the government is going to provide some clarity and some substance to what exactly and when exactly something might be in the works.
The past mayor of Chilliwack, Sharon Gaetz, wasn’t a huge fan of commuter rail, and she mentioned at one point that in 2014, only about 10 percent of trips by locals were outside of the Fraser Valley. She also said that depending on the structure — I mean, is it going to be a part of TransLink? — Fraser Valley municipalities may have a larger financial burden compared to the Lower Mainland and the enhancements to Vancouver, GVRD transportation system enhancement. What would the Fraser Valley, currently under B.C. Transit…? How would that be integrated with TransLink? So a lot of unknowns there.
Ken Popove also has made the case that the existing urban rail line may not be sufficient for commuter rail. It’s been there for a long time, and a lot of people have made the case that we can simply piggyback on that. Well, we’re not sure that that actually is something that is doable. So, again, I would ask the government — at some point, because it was left out of the budget — to make an effort to let my constituents know, let the rest of us know, exactly what their vision is for the future of transportation to the eastern Fraser Valley.
This clearly wasn’t a pre-election budget, so maybe it’s going to be in the next one. I’m certainly looking forward to what the intent of the government is with respect to transportation, highway widening, commuter rail or anything else that is going to impact, hopefully, in a positive way, the flow of individuals and goods back and forth.
You know, it’s not just about idling in a traffic jam on Highway 1 and being late for an appointment or missing a social activity somewhere west of Abbotsford. I know that we have a huge problem in Chilliwack with big rigs trying to complete their day’s work. It wasn’t that long ago that we could sometimes see, from Rogers Foods…. A truck could do three trips in a single day to and from the Lower Mainland from Chilliwack. Well, that doesn’t happen anymore. It’s down to two. And in some cases, it may only be one.
Anyone in the Lower Mainland…. Any time you put a bagel in the toaster and make yourself a sandwich, there’s a pretty good chance that that flour came from my neck of the woods. Without a predictable, efficient corridor to move goods back and forth to the Lower Mainland and other places, to the various ports for export…. Without the proper and efficient transportation systems, that hurts everybody. It hurts the local economy. It hurts jobs. And it certainly impacts the convenience and the expectation that something is going to arrive in time. So that, in particular, for me, is the biggest thing about the budget — what wasn’t in there.
I do look forward to the government providing some clarity sooner rather than later. It is an issue that my constituents are concerned about, as any time I go into Vancouver for meetings or anytime I’m going to Tsawwassen to catch a ferry, I’m always wary that I may or may not get there on time. It’s really up in the air. Anything can happen along that highway.
I’ve lost track of how many times, heading into the Lower Mainland, I’ve been stuck in traffic behind an accident or just congestion, and then the very same thing happens on the way back. I go scurrying for the side roads and the back roads to see if I can somehow get home before the clock clicks, and it’s a brand-new day. A source of frustration for those of us in the eastern Fraser Valley and much of the rest of the Fraser Valley that cannot count on our arrival at a particular time.
I don’t have the luxury of knowing what the government might have in mind — if there is going to, at some point, be an expansion of the number of lanes heading out to Abbotsford and eventually beyond, if some type of commuter rail system is going to be in the cards at some point or whether HOV lanes are the answer. But I do expect the government to provide some clarity, some substance, in this regard — again, as I say, sooner rather than later. I look forward to it.
There is much more that can be spoken in the budget. I wanted to focus solely on that one particular issue because it seems to be the big one that resonated, following the throne speech, in my valley. I will turn it over to my colleagues to comment on other bits and pieces of Budget 2020. Thank you for the opportunity to raise this critical matter in the people’s House.
Hon. A. Kang: In my new role as Minister of Citizens’ Services and as MLA for Burnaby–Deer Lake, I’m honoured to rise in the House today to speak in support of the budget speech, a speech that outlines how this government is making life more affordable, enhancing the services people count on and building a strong, sustainable economy that works for everyone.
Before I get started, I want to say how honoured I am to be standing in this chamber and in the building which sits on the traditional territory of the Lək̓ʷəŋin̓əŋ-speaking peoples and the Songhees and Esquimalt Nations. I thank them for the ability for us to gather and work in this place. We are grateful for the stewardship of these lands for so many centuries.
I also want to begin by thanking my constituents, the people of Burnaby–Deer Lake, who have put their faith in me and elected me as their MLA. It’s their voice that I bring into this chamber with me every single day.
I am very grateful for the work of my constituency assistants and that volunteers do to support me in what I do in Victoria and, as well, back at home.
Of course, I want to thank my family, who have been my constant, best cheerleaders and bring lots and lots of sunshine into my life. I want to extend my heartfelt gratitude and love to my parents and my children for their unconditional love and support for me.
Last but not least, to all my friends, who have been there for me through thick and thin, through all the different elections, who stepped up to help me with child care solutions, to give me strength and courage and to offer honest, heart-to-heart chats with me without me having to debate my politics.
I also want to take this opportunity to appreciate all my colleagues in the House, whom I know work very, very hard. What a fantastic team of people I get to work with day in and day out. Working with such a fantastic team, just like a family, means that we are all part of something very special.
So to all my family and friends out there, I want to say thank you.
Today I have the pleasure to respond to government’s Budget 2020. Budget 2020 outlines investments in schools, hospitals, roads, transit and housing. These investments will benefit communities and families throughout the province and will support a sustainable economy for everyone.
Over the next three years, government is investing $22.9 billion to help with job creation, improving services like health care and education and supporting trades and business opportunities. I am proud that many of these investments will benefit the people and families who live and work in B.C., as well as in my community of Burnaby. These include nearly $547 million to upgrade the hospital so people can get the best care possible; a $73 million contribution to student housing at Simon Fraser University and a further $6.6 million for SFU’s Cedar supercomputer; $28.6 million for seismic upgrades at Parkcrest and Seaforth elementary schools so students will have a safer place to learn and grow.
I want to make a special mention to Seaforth Elementary School, a school where I taught for several years while I was a Burnaby school teacher.
In Burnaby alone, B.C. Housing is investing $15 million to redevelop 91 affordable housing units for low- to moderate-income families and seniors.
Those are just new investments in my communities under Budget 2020. Government has delivered on key affordability promises to B.C. families. Significant progress has been made to give parents better access to affordable, quality child care throughout the province. So let’s take a look at the numbers.
Since 2017, this government has invested more than $630 million in child care. More than 27,000 kids are getting child care for $10 a day or less, and 10,000 early childhood educators are getting wage enhancements. Our investments have put $360 million back into the pockets of parents through child care reduction fees and the affordable child care benefit. When the new child opportunity benefit is introduced in October, thousands of parents, especially those who need it most, will see further savings.
Right in my community of Burnaby–Deer Lake, government has invested more than $6.6 million in child care, and nearly $4.5 million of that has gone right back to the pockets of parents in my community. Numbers don’t lie. The choices this government has made and continues to make are providing direct supports to people and families. They are making life more affordable.
As Eleanor Roosevelt said: “For our own success to be real, it must contribute to the success of others.” This is true for our government as a whole, and it is true for the Ministry of Citizens’ Services. My ministry often does a lot of work behind the scenes to help other ministries shine.
For example, Citizens’ Services is responsible for monitoring and keeping B.C. government systems safe 24-7. Our ministry houses the government digital experience team or GDX. They’re ultimately responsible for the government’s website, which hosts nearly 41 million visitors and more than 100 million page views last year. Government content also appeared in Google searches more than 171 million times just last year alone. The GDX team has also run more than 70 public engagements this year through govTogetherBC, including the one on daylight saving time with the Ministry of Attorney General. More than 220,000 people shared their opinions through this record-level engagement.
When mills and mines and other operations shut down, people face an unknown future. Resource-dependent communities often need to find ways to diversify their economies and revitalize their workforce. Internet connectivity and infrastructure falls under Citizens’ Services and can be a key economic driver for communities. Connecting people to high-speed Internet provides increased opportunities for health care, education, small business and tourism.
Our 65 Service B.C. centres, along with our provincial contact centre, play a key role in providing information and connecting people with services and support they can count on. Our motto at Service B.C. centres is “Service with heart.” These service centres are the face of government in many communities, especially those in rural and remote areas of the province. People can go there to renew their driver’s licence, apply for income assistance or get a fishing permit. Our staff can connect people to more than 300 government programs and services in 140 languages. The B.C. Services Card is making it easier for people and businesses to connect to the government service they need.
My ministry is also responsible for the B.C. procurement strategy, so we work with organizations of all sizes to make it easier to do business with government. Programs such as Code with Us and Sprint with Us are easier to navigate and are more transparent than traditional approaches. These programs have resulted in a nearly $12 million investment in the B.C. tech sector.
Citizens’ Services owns a piece of the province’s CleanBC strategy as well. The CleanBC government building program launched in July 2019. It will help ensure that more than 1,000 facilities, in-province owns and leases become more sustainable and eco-friendly.
These are just some of the ways that my ministry contributes to the success of others. As you can see, there’s a lot happening, and you don’t need to look very far to see how interconnected my ministry is with other ministries.
I want to take some time to tell you a little bit about an area of my ministry that has got some budget increases for key projects such as the real property division. My ministry manages about 1,800 buildings throughout the province, including those assets we manage on behalf of our clients. These buildings are just one part of the province’s overarching strategy to deal with climate change.
The CleanBC government building programs are making existing buildings more energy-efficient. These programs will help reduce emissions and energy consumption while also saving public dollars. We are working to create net-zero-energy-ready facilities throughout the province. Our target is to make government buildings 80 percent more efficient by 2050 when compared to the standards of 2010. We will use smart technologies like Wi-Fi building sensors to regulate lighting, and we are working on a plan to replace the aging heating systems like the one here at the Legislature.
The province is offering rebates of up to $6,000 for purchases of electric vehicles, and Citizens’ Services has installed 45 electric vehicle charging stations. At least 50 more stations are going to be installed in the coming fiscal year.
Through leading workplace strategies, we are creating flexible and modern work environments to support a growing mobile workforce. An example of this is the new government workplace that will open later this year in Langford. The space will enable government workers who work on the West Shore to spend more time with their families and less time idling in traffic.
The ministry is leading the construction of the new Abbotsford courthouse complex and has completed the expansion of the Surrey Courthouse and city hall, as well as the adolescent treatment centre in Coquitlam. Both facilities recently received gold certification for leadership in energy and environmental design.
My ministry is also working on the construction of the Nanaimo Correctional Centre and facility improvements for the Ministry of Social Development and Poverty Reduction service and delivery offices. Improvements are also underway for community corrections centres around the province. This includes improving segregation cells in our corrections centres. These will provide better services to some of the most vulnerable members of our society.
We will also continue to provide information management and information technology service to public servants across the province and to maintain government systems to keep information safe and secure.
I would like to repeat the earlier quote. “For our own success to be real, it must contribute to the success of others.” The public servants at Citizens’ Services do an amazing job, and I offer them my most sincere thanks — their success through the work they do to keep the engine of government running and to be the face of government throughout the province. In turn, we support other ministries to be successful, and that contributes to the success of government as a whole.
What does government success look like? Making life more affordable, creating good jobs that pay well, better supporting the people who need it most, improving the supports and services that all British Columbians count on and building a strong, vibrant economy in every corner of this province so people can harness opportunities and reach their full potential. That is what good government and successful government looks like. Our government is putting people first, and we will continue to work hard for British Columbians. I’m ready for the work ahead.
B. Stewart: It’s a pleasure to be here for both my constituents and the business owners who are counting on Budget 2020 and 2021 to help make life better, brighter for their families and their businesses.
I’m proud to join the debate on the budget, and I have to say that it is along the lines of what the member for Chilliwack mentioned earlier — that it is a very kind of rosy picture about things in the throne speech that we thought we might be seeing in this, but when you dig down deep, it isn’t quite that. I’m going to talk a little bit more about that.
This is the third full budget from the NDP government. During the past 2½ years, we — and British Columbians — have heard many empty words about the NDP’s big promises. What we really got were more excuses than real actions — misleading numbers with no action.
Many members in this House will remember the previous NDP government’s notorious fudge-it budgets. There were some in the ’70s and some in the ’90s.
As you will remember, the government itself took many years to dig out and recover from overspending and high levels of taxation. The members that are here on the government side should remember the fact that we went from the best to the worst, basically, in terms of what we were doing, in terms of economic output and what….
Interjection.
B. Stewart: It was the ’90s, Member, just so you know. You weren’t even here, and you don’t know anything about the corporate capital tax, because you didn’t even have a business, and you wouldn’t know anything if it….
Anyway, my point is that this is a continued rerun of the same movie. I don’t want to take away from the aspirational goals of the government, the ministers and the members from that side of the House. It’s about promising everything and not being able to actually afford it. The situation is that we continue to have a tax-and-spend budget that does little to stimulate investment and employment.
That’s how the government creates the basis of revenue for this government. It essentially creates a strong, healthy, vibrant economy that does the right things to being able to help the people that have less, that need a hand up, or the areas we want to incentivize — whether it’s education or the people needing to have shelter or being able to help reduce addictions and the mental health issues that we all know are out there. We could spend the entire budget of the government and still not have all of the things, the solutions that we know we need to have on that. We have to take it in small bits and pieces.
This government is reaching a surplus by grabbing money from taxpayers and businesses. I think it’s fair to say that the messaging, as you see it on TV every day, is: “Everything is okay. We’re making life better. We’re making life more affordable.”
The fact is that when you look outside — just outside here, a few feet from where I’m standing today — we have protesters chained to the gates of the Legislature, trying to make a point about what it is they see that the government should be doing to make life better for them. How many of these protests and rallies do we have to see at the Legislature before we can actually deal with the business of government — getting on with the task of making certain that we debate the budget, that we get down to estimates and look at the real issues?
There’s no question that the government and the ministers are working hard on reconciliation in trying to do that. But the reality is, the rule of law, which the Premier mentioned was going to be followed in this particular case…. We’ve seen little example of that in British Columbia here to make that a reality.
What does that show you? It shows incompetence. It shows an indication of industries that are going downhill. It shows that this NDP government has no idea about the economy or fiscal management. To do proper fiscal planning, one must identify deficiencies in the economy, figure out which part of the social structure requires attention and then use available resources to achieve particular goals. It requires vision. Our society should be run in a cost-effective way. This NDP budget is anything but cost-effective.
Since the NDP took office, we know, and you know, that there are 23 new or increased taxes. Taxes are up $5.7 billion. That’s over 10 percent of the budget that was presented in this House prior to the election in 2017. It’s going to go up to $8.8 billion. These are staggering numbers. Where is that money coming from? Is the economy growing so well that we can all see that there is increased tax revenue coming in?
How about the forest sector? I mean, we know that they’re not going to be pulling their weight of their contributions. The numbers I have seen in terms of employment numbers…. Forget about forestry, which has a staggering number of people that are out of work. But even the mining sector, which we had here in this House yesterday, has significant reductions in employment.
The fact is that these core industries, our natural resource industries…. Whether it’s opposition to Coastal GasLink, whether it’s the forest sector, whether it’s a downturn in terms of minerals and commodity prices, the bottom line is that we need to have a healthy economy on all fronts, and that includes technology and all the other clean sectors that we do want, but we’re not there yet.
The bottom line is that when you calculate out those costs, that means that every British Columbian household will have to pay $4,700 more per year by 2022 with this budget. They’ve also increased the tax bracket on high-income earners, which was a new super tax that was brought in last year. That increases from 16.8 up to 20.5 percent, and it’ll put the combined top marginal tax rate at close to 54 percent.
We must ask: how do these endless taxes put B.C. in the rank of a national and global market? And that’s important, because we have to be competitive. We have neighbouring provinces. We worked hard to attract businesses here. Many that the government speaks of today about why they’re locating here….
Why are the businesses, the technology companies, bringing their headquarters and the people here to lead a revolution in terms of technology and other things like that? It’s because we had a competitive environment. But all of a sudden, in three budgets, we’ve now gone backwards, where we’ve taken all of the advantages we had, and we said: “You can afford to pay more.” Of course they can, especially if it’s through the corporate income tax. If it’s through the other things, like where we’re trying to attract the best of the best, whether it’s from the United States or other countries around the world, we have to have a competitive income tax system so that we can compete.
We have a great lifestyle here. Don’t get me wrong. There are lots of natural advantages we have, but there is a balance, and we’ve got to make certain that we retain the balance between those. We’ve heard from multiple organizations arguing about how policy-makers in Victoria have to improve B.C.’s fraying competitive position in a fast-changing world.
Here’s what the B.C. Business Council said, specifically about the higher personal taxes on a small slice of the population. It “will generate less incremental revenue than the government is forecasting and undermine efforts to foster a more innovative and entrepreneurial economy.”
We hear that from the Minister of Advanced Education. In education, we want to be the most well educated. We want to have the best systems. Those are great aspirational goals. We on this side of the House support that, but the bottom line is we have to make certain that we can bring those things together so that we can help that develop here in British Columbia, and it’s a journey. It’s not one kind of adjustment that makes this all happen.
It’s hard to see how these taxes are going to help attract top companies, talents and retain headquarters of global companies in our province. Capital is very fluid. This morning we saw in the New York Times the reaction to what happened yesterday with a headquartered company here in British Columbia shelving a proposed energy project. Regardless of what it is, the bottom line is that capital is questioning whether British Columbia is the right place to invest. That’s what we’re looking for. We’re looking for certainty.
The bottom line is that the member who’s responsible for creating jobs, etc…. They’re going to be under threat because of the fact that capital moves around the globe. I’ve seen it. I’ve been there.
I know, when we had the last financial crisis in 2008, we had lots of issues around our financial institutions in British Columbia. We stood firm on the fact that we were a responsible place to invest in, where there was certainty. If you had permitting, whether it’s around the environment and you were investing in forest products, pellet plants, energy products, etc., we provided stability with the certainty that we were not going to all of a sudden, once you had invested, be able to jack up the taxes that you had to pay here.
Over time, headquarters will leave, taking jobs away from B.C. I certainly hope that for the foregoing company that I just mentioned, that doesn’t happen, because they have a big base here. They have a lot of investment. They affect communities from Elkford to Logan Lake, Ashcroft, all across this province, and they are a super important company that is very responsible about what they do here in this province.
The NDP government is under the illusion that B.C.’s economy is doing great. They touted about the low unemployment and the strong economy. My colleague, who, as many of you know, is an economist by training, looked out at some of the numbers that are produced just by B.C. Stats. He’s pointed out to myself and my colleagues about just how the numbers really are. I know that we can look at the percentages, but the reality is that…. I mentioned mining and oil and gas. They’ve seen a decrease in employment over the last year — 3.4 percent in mining and oil and gas at the start of 2019. Here we are in January of 2020, and they’re down 9.4 percent.
Forestry. I mean, it’s a complete basket case, going down 8.5 percent last year and down 40.4 percent in terms of employment. We all know the stories about the people that are at home with no future prospects. What does this budget provide for families that are in the Cariboo, the Chilcotin or in the Robson Valley or maybe on Vancouver Island, where they’ve had the longest strike in recent memory, maybe the longest strike ever in British Columbia history? The bottom line: although it’s settled, think about all the families that are dependent on those workers working for Western Forest Products.
We have seen unemployment. It has gone up from 4.4 percent to 4.8 percent from just a year ago. We continue to lose full-time, private sector jobs, which is at about 32,800 in just the last eight months. We’ve seen 100 mill curtailments, ten permanent and indefinite shutdowns, including the one in Kelowna in my own riding. Tolko officially closed this January, which is following on the loss of the veneer plant which eliminated over 100 jobs a year or so ago, and now we have another 125.
It is about them, but it’s all of the other support industries that are so reliant on the fact that the repairs and maintenance and the supplies that go into running a mill…. All of those jobs have been cut back or curtailed because of that.
We proposed on this side of the House a five-point action plan to provide tax relief to the industry, but the NDP government has decided with this budget and the last budget that the way forward should be to cancel the rural dividend fund and reallocate portions of that into transition funds. We just don’t believe that that’s enough to help keep this industry alive, healthy and well.
What else is there for workers in the province? To add insult to injury, due to the union benefits agreement, 85 percent of B.C. construction workers cannot participate in B.C. projects unless they are part of the NDP’s handpicked unions. Workers in B.C. are suffering, and the NDP government is congratulating themselves on the wonderful job they’ve done. Isn’t that ironic?
Under this tax-and-spend governance, economic growth in B.C. is slowing down more rapidly than expected. Their speculation tax doesn’t address speculation. It only makes housing less affordable. I know in my own community, they collected over $1 million in West Kelowna and four times that in the city of Kelowna. Now, they were promised by the Finance Minister that that money would be used in their community and returned to them.
Just yesterday the Finance Ministry confirmed that that money is not going to be returned. It is actually going to be allocated and distributed on projects within the communities, and that’s how the accounting is being done, whether it’s supportive housing or not. I don’t know how that’s making life more affordable for people that, as we heard in question period today, are faced with huge increases in insurance.
I would say that if this isn’t dealt with in a timely manner, we could see a correction or a total collapse of housing in the condo market, because the banks aren’t going to finance it. The insurers aren’t going to insure it. I realize that that’s a new problem, and it’s not one that you can find an overnight solution to. But the reality is that the speculation tax is having an impact in a negative way in making homes more affordable.
Take the employer health tax. So we heard all the rhetoric. The fact is that employees aren’t going to pay this anymore — MSP. The half that was left was paid last year by employers that were paying it, plus the employer health tax. So they double-dipped last year. This year they’re just going to pay that. Now the employers are starting to feel the real pinch of what’s happening with the employer health tax. The fact that…. It really is impacting. It’s impacting whether they can afford to hire new employees, whether their products are going up in price to make certain that they can maintain a reasonable margin to sustain their business.
These are the types of things that those types of taxes bring on to business and make…. They don’t make life more affordable. They make it more difficult to conduct and run a business. This is a concern of mine, because it just is incomprehensible that the government and the Finance Ministry could possibly think that this linear effect of adding taxes onto businesses is not going to have an impact. It has an impact.
In order to create a product and know how taxes affect the decision-making process, this is what small businesses…. Now, if we look at the small business sector in British Columbia, it’s a huge portion of the British Columbia economy. It’s not the big sawmills and the mines. They’re a part of it. It’s not the big tech companies that are here. It’s small businesses — mothers and fathers that are trying to eke out a living having a business, maybe with two or three employees, trying to get ahead. They’re the ones that are feeling this. The bottom line is that they are not in a position where they can sustain or increase growth. Where is the opportunity?
So we have small businesses that are, frankly, the backbone of local economies. We’ve seen them completely either wiped out or devastated in the forest-dependent communities, and the situation is that they’re providing important employment and providing goods and services to our communities. We should always be making certain that we measure the business climate by how our small businesses are doing.
However, we just saw the latest report of the small business confidence levels since the financial crisis. This last November, business investment growth slowed to 4.1 percent from 10.5 percent previously. The B.C. chamber survey found that 79 percent of its participants said the cost of doing business had worsened, and 49 percent said that their confidence in the B.C. economy had declined in the last year. You cannot tax and spend your way into all of the services that you want to provide. It has to be thoughtful, and it’s got to make certain that it is respective of the fact that we have to have that healthy tension.
Instead of the rosy picture that the NDP is trying to paint, I am seeing a very grim road ahead for our province, especially when the budget, for 16 of 22 of the government’s ministries, has been reduced in this budget.
What was the reason for that? I mean, the budget’s gone up. Taxes have gone up. And here we are. We’re stripping or cutting back, and we’re saying that these ministries can provide an increased level of service, or maybe a reduced level of service. I assume that we’ll find that out during the estimates process.
The situation is that over two-thirds of them have had their budgets cut, and the government has had a mandate to settle with its employees, the people that work in those ministries, on a 2, 2 and 2 settlement basis, let alone whatever happens with the B.C. teachers in terms of the mandate that’s there. The bottom line is: where is the money going to? A reduction in the budget means a reduction in the services of these ministries.
I know that the Minister of Citizens’ Services just spoke. We do see a big issue. I had the opportunity, as she did, to be a participant at the recent privacy conference here in Victoria. Having been the minister at one point and watched successive changes in terms of the technology and how people are using that technology to undermine privacy within private business and government, many of these concerns have to be taken seriously by the minister and her ministry.
To have a reduction in citizens’ services…. She talked about increases where there is money to be allocated, but how are we going to work harder and smarter to make certain that protection of privacy is upheld? We recently saw an example, last fall, of a company here in British Columbia, a supplier to the Ministry of Health, LifeLabs, held hostage and having to pay a ransom for, basically, the information that they had gathered.
Now, at the privacy conference, they talked about how these companies infiltrate these companies. They spend half a year or more getting their position where they’re essentially going to make their demands. It doesn’t necessarily mean that it ends there. The numbers are staggering, what they’re asking for. Recently, there was a decision Deloitte mentioned during the conference that almost $1 million was paid out by a Canadian insurance company that had had its privacy compromised. So it concerns me greatly that at this time when the need is most to make certain we’re protecting privacy, we are reducing budgets in that area.
I can’t help but also talk about, as co-critic on Trade, how important growing the economy is. The fact is that we’ve seen declines in terms of our exports in the last year. There was a 6.4 percent decline in value of B.C. origin exports in 2019. As well, softwood lumber shipments are down by 25.7 percent, which is no surprise, but shipments of metallic minerals are down 9 percent.
[Mr. Speaker in the chair.]
Exports to most of B.C.’s major trading partners have declined, including down 2.8 percent to the U.S., 3.6 to mainland China — this is based on historical numbers — 12.9 percent to Japan and 11.8 to South Korea. B.C. exports are in decline. The blockade of the last few weeks meant that vessels have been sitting still, unable to move products to global customers. What has the NDP government done to solve the problem? Not much.
In addition, we have the looming threat of coronavirus that is going to impact. It already is impacting global markets, and it’s going to impact British Columbia. It’s going to impact demand for our products, whether it’s clean energy, minerals or whatever is needed to help do that. But the situation is: what has the government done to help mitigate moving and getting those goods to market?
Noting the hour, I move adjournment of debate, and I reserve my right to speak at the next sitting of this House.
B. Stewart moved adjournment of debate.
Motion approved.
Hon. S. Robinson moved adjournment of the House.
Motion approved.
Mr. Speaker: This House stands adjourned until 1:30 this afternoon.
The House adjourned at 11:54 a.m.
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