1992 Legislative Session: 1st Session, 35th Parliament
HANSARD
(Hansard)
FRIDAY, MAY 22, 1992
Morning Sitting
Volume 3, Number 12
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The House met at 10:05 a.m.
Prayers.
Hon. C. Gabelmann: I have a very dear friend in the gallery this morning that I'd like to introduce members to. Her name is Linda Lytle. I first met Linda when she was a pharmacist in Campbell River and I was a carpetbagger looking for a new constituency. Since those days Linda has gone upwards in her life. She is now deputy registrar of the College of Pharmacists of B.C. I'd like the House to make her welcome.
Hon. A. Charbonneau: Looking on from the gallery today are a number of special guests from Discovery School in Victoria. On behalf of the hon. member for Victoria-Hillside, please join me in welcoming Marcia Mackey and nine Discovery students from grades 6 and 7. It's very good to have them with us in the House today.
B. Copping: In the House today are a group of grade 4 and 5 students from Glenayre Elementary and their teacher, Mr. Dawodharry. Would the House please make them welcome.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION AND
PROTECTION OF PRIVACY ACT
Hon. C. Gabelmann presented a message from His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor: a bill intituled Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.
Hon. C. Gabelmann: I am pleased to introduce Bill 50, the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act.
British Columbia is one of only three provinces without some form of freedom-of-information legislation. For many years groups and individuals in our province have been strong advocates for such legislation, among them the member for Burnaby North. I would like to pay tribute to the efforts of these many individuals and groups, whose advocacy is bearing fruit today. This bill will strengthen the public's right to information and records in the hands of government, government agencies, boards and commissions and Crown corporations. It does more than simply open government files; it makes it very clear that government is the domain of the public.
Whereas previously a citizen had to justify a request for information in government hands, this bill requires government to justify any refusal to provide such information. The government would only be able to say no in limited cases, such as when the information would violate the privacy of another individual, cause economic harm to the province, reveal trade secrets of a private business or interfere with law enforcement.
The bill also provides that some cabinet documents can be kept confidential for a specified period of time, but a shorter period than is provided in other provinces.
The bill provides greater protection for privacy with respect to personal information held by the government. It places limits on the right to collect such information and provides that such information cannot be used for other purposes without authorization.
The bill provides for the appointment by the Legislature of an information and privacy commissioner, accountable to the Legislature, to make necessary rulings under the act.
Although extensive consultation has taken place prior to the drafting of the bill, its importance is such that it is not our intention to proceed through all stages for some time, to allow hon. members and other British Columbians to offer their suggestions for improvements. But I should add that we intend to proceed with the bill this session, if we possibly can.
I move the bill be introduced and read a first time now.
Bill 50 introduced, read a first time and ordered to be placed on orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today.
RITES OF PASSAGE
D. Streifel: Hon. Speaker, I am addressing the House this morning on an event that is taking place in Mission during the month of May: the Rites of Passage. It's an exhibition celebrating the history of the Japanese-Canadian community in Mission. The exhibition features the largest collection of community archives and photographs ever displayed, depicting the migration, settlement, uprooting and resettlement of Canadians of Japanese ancestry.
The migration to Canada by Issei, the first generation of immigrants from Japan, began in 1884. Their arrival in Mission, however, did not begin until the first decade of this century. Many of Mission's Issei pioneers originated from the impoverished and overpopulated prefectures of southern Japan, such as Shiga-ken, Fukuoka-ken and Hiroshima-ken. Upon their arrival in British Columbia, most spent several years working as transient labourers. Once they had earned enough money, these industrious pioneers were able to purchase land in Mission. The first Issei to settle in Mission was Kumekichi Fujino, who arrived in 1904. From 1910 on, each year brought more Japanese immigrants to Mission, including Tashiro Hashizume, Teizo Nakashima and Minoru Kudo. These visionary, hard-working Issei formed the nucleus of what was to become one of the largest Japanese-Canadian settlements in the Fraser Valley. The dream of many Issei to farm attracted them to Mission, where land, though hilly and densely forested, was plentiful and relatively inexpensive. Many cleared their land while supporting their families by working in established farms and sawmills or in other jobs. By 1930 there were 103 properties in Mission owned by Canadians of Japanese
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origin, averaging 9.51 acres each and accounting for 979 acres. The majority of these farms cultivated strawberries along with other crops, including raspberries, gooseberries, loganberries, blackberries, plums, apples, grapes, cherries and rhubarb.
Having established homes, the Issei began raising their families. This second generation, known as Nisei, accounted for 3 percent of the school population in Mission in 1918 and for over 30 percent by 1928. With growing families and productive farms, a thriving community was established in Mission, which included the Japanese Farmers' Association, the judo club, the sewing club, the Buddhist church and two Japanese-language schools.
Japanese Canadians have made a significant contribution to the development of this province and this country. Canadians today pride themselves as a nation composed of immigrants -- rich in cultural diversity and based on the principles of tolerance and equality. This, however, has not always been the case. Unfortunately, this legacy is marred by the persecution of successive provincial and Canadian governments toward many of the ethnocultural communities. Canadians have not always been tolerant of their fellow citizens, particularly those with roots in Asia.
We in the New Democratic Party and its forerunner, the CCF, have always championed the cause of social and economic justice for all Canadians, often when it was clearly against the force of public opinion. The CCF adamantly opposed the callous treatment of Indo-Canadians in the Komagata Maru incident. We strongly opposed the imposition of the head tax on Chinese Canadians, and we were the only voice, as a party, to condemn the internment of Canadians of Japanese ancestry during World War II.
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I would like to cite a few words of a distinguished Member of Parliament at the time:
"If we are to have harmonious and friendly relations between the Oriental population and the rest of our British Columbia citizens, we must stop discriminating against and abusing the Orientals. We must find some common ground on which we can work, and I think it can be found...I am satisfied that if we treat the Japanese and our other Oriental citizens right, we shall get their loyalty...."
He went on to say:
"I know them, speak to them; I visit them and have them in my home, and I have not the slightest doubt that what I say is correct. If we are to avoid the troubles that other countries have had with racial minorities, then we must take a realistic view of the situation in British Columbia and attempt to make these people feel at home among us. We will secure their loyalty by fairness and kindness and by the practice of those other attributes which we exercise in our relationships with other people."
Those words are from a famous speech given in the House of Commons in February 1941 by Angus MacInnis, the then member for Vancouver-Kingsway. Mr. MacInnis led the fight against internment with great dedication and conviction. He singled out the hardships and inequities that this policy would cause, yet his pleas for reason and moderation were drowned out by the ugly cries of ignorance and racism. The scope of this injustice was best illustrated by Mr. MacInnis when he said: "We must always keep in mind that most of the Japanese in British Columbia -- the people of Japanese origin -- are not Japanese, they are Canadians."
In the aftermath of the hysteria surrounding the events shaping up at the time, the Canadian government was not convinced. It acted swiftly and brutally. The Mackenzie King government ordered that all Canadians of Japanese ancestry living within 100 miles of the B.C. coast be sent to internment camps in the interior of the province or to other parts of the country. This act of blatant racism of the Canadian government at the time resulted in the uprooting and disruption of the lives of 22,000 of our citizens. This was done not because of something they had done wrong, but because of who they were. They were the victims of intolerance and racism. They had done nothing to imperil any of their fellow citizens and neighbours, but as a result of this unfounded hysteria entire families across British Columbia were broken up, their property confiscated and their businesses destroyed.
The effect on the Japanese-Canadian community in Mission was devastating. Beginning in April 1942 and during the next several months, over 600 people of Japanese ancestry, many of them second-generation Canadians, were rounded up like animals and systematically removed from their homes. Most of them were interned or relocated to sugar-beet farms in southern Alberta. All their homes, businesses and assets were confiscated and held in trust by the custodian of enemy property. What was not vandalized and stolen was sold for a fraction of its value. In Mission, the properties of 125 families were seized, amounting to approximately 1,300 acres and 273 lots, along with land belonging to the Buddhist society, the Japanese United Church and the Japanese Farmers' Association. Any money the owners received from these transactions went to defray the costs of their internment.
The Speaker: I regret, hon. member, your time has expired. You will have time for comments later.
C. Serwa: It's my pleasure to speak on the topic that the hon. member has brought forward. I recognize that the burden we bear is one that all Canadians must share in this particular situation. In past weeks, here in the Legislature, we've heard private members' statements refer to racism, and fundamentally, racism was the initiative that caused the problems to the Japanese-Canadian community in British Columbia.
My research indicates that the Japanese have been in British Columbia for a very long time. The first settler settled in the Victoria area in 1877. The gentleman's name was Manzo Nagano. By 1914, approximately 10,000 Japanese had settled permanently in Canada, most of them, of course, on the west coast. The history of the Japanese Canadians is characterized by discrimination and the turmoil of the past. That has changed, and today the Japanese Canadians enjoy many successes in all fields of endeavour.
The first wave of immigration, called Issei, arrived from 1877 to 1928. The Issei, the first wave, were young and literate, generally products of poor and over-
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crowded fishing and farming villages in Japan. Most settled in or near Victoria and Vancouver, many on farms in the Fraser Valley and in fishing villages and pulp towns along the Pacific Coast.
World War II and its effects were devastating and destroyed the Japanese-Canadian community as it existed. Within 12 weeks after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor the War Measures Act was invoked, and all Canadians of Japanese origin who lived within 100 miles of the Pacific Coast were ordered to be removed.
As I said earlier, the blame has to be on racist policies, and probably on racist politicians as well. Not one Canadian of Japanese origin was ever charged with disloyalty to Canada, and that speaks something for the quality of the Japanese-Canadian people. By 1942, almost 21,000 Japanese Canadians were removed from their homes, and their property was confiscated. They were sent, in fact, to detention camps. I remember travelling in the early days of the Hope-Princeton Highway and seeing some of the camps where the Japanese Canadians lived and some of the clearing that they had done by hand on that highway.
From 1943 to 1946 the Canadian government sold all of the Japanese-Canadian property: their homes, farms, fishing boats, businesses and all personal property. The Japanese Canadians were charged for the period of time that they were in the detention camps, and that was deducted from the proceeds, as the hon. member has indicated, of forced sales, which realized very poor values for their properties.
The bright side is that in the 1950s Japanese Canadians rebuilt their lives and their communities through hard work and educational achievement. Now in the fourth and fifth generation, Japanese Canadians can measure their successes in every professional occupation, in every field of endeavour here in British Columbia and certainly in Canada. Japanese Canadians served honourably in the Second World War fighting for freedom in defence of Canada and the rights of all peoples.
Japanese Canadians have been a very strong and vital element in my constituency -- formerly Okanagan South, now Okanagan West -- in the central Okanagan area. Some carry on traditional farming practices as very competent agriculturists and very successful farmers, but they are involved in all sorts of businesses and professions: in medicine, in music, in all fields -- tremendous athletes. I went through school with... A number of my classmates and good friends were Japanese-Canadians. They continue, through the Japanese United Church and the Japanese Buddhist Church, to support a wide variety of community programs -- fund-raisers for the successful Together We Care campaign.
All in all, it is something that we have to remember and, lest we forget, such a thing should never happen again.
D. Streifel: I chose to speak on the Rites of Passage, not to point fingers at past governments and not to lay blame on others for their actions. That is the easy way out. I chose to speak on this for the same reason the volunteers in Mission decided to display the photographs and the archives that they have, in an attempt to educate myself, the citizens I work with and the hon. members of this chamber, and to have the strength and the courage to stand against racism wherever we find it.
Our nation's past mistakes must never be allowed to be repeated. We must tell our children about these atrocities. The forces of intolerance and hatred will prey on a society which cannot recall its past. As Canadians, we must make every effort to foster greater understanding, tolerance and generosity among our culturally rich and diverse communities. Only together can and will we create a society which respects all its citizens.
The pink ornamental cherry trees we all see blossoming so beautifully in Beacon Hill Park, Fairfield and James Bay were a gift to Victoria from its former Japanese-Canadian community -- a community exiled 50 years ago. These trees can perhaps serve as a reminder and a testimony of an act of graciousness, generosity and goodwill in the face of racial hatred and intolerance.
To close, I would invite all this assembly and all watching these proceedings to experience the Rites of Passage in Mission.
A. Cowie: I ask leave to make a brief introduction.
Leave granted.
A. Cowie: I notice that Nancy Chiavario is in the audience. She is the chairman of the Vancouver Parks Board, and I worked with her for many years. She is a hard worker and very dedicated, and I ask that you all make her welcome.
FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME
L. Reid: I rise today to make a statement on an issue which I believe is of critical importance to all British Columbians. The issue I am speaking of is the fetal alcohol syndrome, perhaps the number one cause of mental handicap in the western world.
My statement today is a plea for action by this government. A B.C. Ministry of Health report issued in 1991 estimated that fetal alcohol syndrome and fetal alcohol effects are the chief causes in one in three cases of babies born with a mental handicap. The report went on to estimate that the lifetime cost of caring for each of these children will be at least $1 million, and that the total lifetime cost of children born in one year could be conservatively estimated at $272 million.
The economic costs of this disease are high, but the human costs are almost incalculable. Remember, fetal alcohol syndrome is completely preventable. It occurs in children whose mothers consume alcohol during pregnancy, and its effects can range from slow postnatal growth to severe mental handicap. Although the disease is completely preventable, the damage is permanent.
No one knows exactly how much alcohol is likely to affect pre-and postnatal development, but studies have shown that the more a woman drinks, the more likely she is to have a fetal alcohol child. However, no safe
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dose has been established, and there is no safe limit for a pregnant mother.
According to the ministry report, most FAS children will never be financially or socially self-sufficient, nor will they be as likely as other children to be responsible parents themselves. They are more likely to require special care, and there's a higher chance that they will end up in the criminal justice system. It is incredibly unfair and very sad that these children must spend their lifetime overcoming severe problems that could have been prevented.
Native populations are particularly at risk. Less access to health care, high birth rates and a high incidence of alcoholism combine to make the aboriginal community particularly prone to fetal alcohol syndrome. But FAS is not limited to a particular racial or cultural group. In our society, where alcohol is a legal and socially accepted drug, every child may be unnecessarily put at risk.
The key to solving this very costly and difficult problem is prevention, and in this case, prevention starts with education. Doubtless the fight against fetal alcohol syndrome must be waged on many fronts, including community programs, the education of health professionals and targeting high-risk groups. But there are two ways this government can fight FAS immediately, and they would cost the taxpayer almost nothing. This government could require that all alcoholic beverages sold in British Columbia carry warning labels for pregnant women and require that every licensed establishment post a warning sign on its premises.
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Misunderstandings around alcohol and pregnancy abound. For years women were told that drinking in moderation did not pose a problem for their developing fetus. Today we know that's wrong. Every woman has the right to know the dangers that consuming alcohol pose to the growth of her baby, and in my view it's government's responsibility to ensure that its citizens are protected. I'm not suggesting that women be forbidden to drink; that would be a gross infringement of their rights. I am suggesting, however, that women be given the information they need to make an informed choice, because I believe that women have the right to be informed consumers.
I'm aware that labelling is a federal responsibility, and I'm aware that the Mulroney government has refused to take action. Federal Health minister Beno�t Bouchard has said that he will wait until the provinces come to a unanimous decision on the issue before he will consider taking action. British Columbians cannot wait any longer. I'm urging this government to take action now. British Columbia can follow the pace set by the Yukon government, which requires cautionary labels on all alcoholic beverages. We can do this immediately.
Fetal alcohol syndrome is a problem with enormous human, social and economic costs attached. This is not an issue that the government can afford to drag its feet on. We need action, and we need it now. The women and children of British Columbia deserve no less.
J. Pement: I rise on the government side of this House, not only to respond to the statement on fetal alcohol syndrome, but also to join the hon. member opposite in voicing our concerns about the devastating effects of FAS, fetal alcohol syndrome. We cannot state too often or too loudly that to drink during pregnancy is to gamble with the healthy development and growth of our children. FAS children live through a range of effects that will stay with them for their lifetimes. Listen to what can happen to these children right from the beginning: arrested prenatal growth, which may result in low birth weight; facial effects to eyes, midface, upper jaws and lips; symptoms that affect the central nervous system, which include severe mental impairment.
Each year, 400 children in Canada are born with FAS; in addition, 4,000 infants are born annually with what is called FAE -- fetal alcohol effects. There may be no physical manifestations of FAE, but there may be developmental concerns and behavioural problems which extend far into later life. The tragedy of these effects cannot be minimized. More tragic is that the effects to these children could have been avoided. Clearly, the need for information and education before and during pregnancy is required.
Provincially the Health ministry has pregnancy outreach programs and projects. These projects focus on high-risk pregnant women who do not traditionally access prenatal programs. Pregnancy outreach provides health counselling, referrals, food supplements and peer group support. Social Services is supporting community programs, which conduct free workshops in the community in order to educate and inform all residents of the possible effects of drinking alcohol during pregnancy. One such program in my constituency of Bulkley Valley-Stikine is the family-centred program in Burns Lake, which is run through the College of New Caledonia. This program runs workshops that include all residents of all ages to talk about this issue. The Health ministry also has educational kits and other materials for peer counselling, which are available to groups for their use.
This is a community issue. Some communities or municipalities have passed bylaws that require posting of FAS warning signs in licensed establishments, and I commend those communities that do so. Individual citizens are approaching owners and managers of licensed establishments as well to post these warnings of their own volition.
In March the federal New Democrat Member of Parliament for New Westminster-Burnaby, Don Black, presented a petition of 6,000 signatures in the House of Commons in support of warnings on the labels of alcohol beverage containers. The Canadian Medical Association has called for the labelling as well, and has done so for over a decade. In the U.S. all alcohol beverages have the warnings on the labels as well.
This issue requires all members of this House to ensure that information and understanding of the issue is brought forward to your constituents. I encourage you to become advocates to support programs of awareness and to encourage municipalities to enact
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bylaws for warning signs in licensed establishments. I thank the hon. member for bringing this issue forward.
L. Reid: Speaking as an educator, I have firsthand knowledge of the difficulties that placing an FAE child in a classroom can have on the quality of education that's delivered to all the students.
The numbers are astonishing. One in three handicapped children in the western world may suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome. Each of these children costs society at least $1 million. More importantly, each of them will encounter enormous difficulties dealing with everyday life. Each one of these children is unnecessarily deprived of the quality of life they might enjoy.
Every day that the government does not take action to prevent fetal alcohol syndrome may mean that one or two more children are born with FAS in British Columbia. I suggest that these children, who may be afflicted with FAS or FAE, cannot wait any longer. This government must commit itself to embarking on a public awareness campaign to fight fetal alcohol syndrome. As part of this campaign, the government must ensure that all alcoholic beverages sold in the province of British Columbia be labelled with a warning to pregnant women. This government must also require that every licensed establishment place a warning sign on their premises.
Polls tell us very clearly that Canadian women think that drinking in moderation won't harm their baby. In a society where we are bombarded with positive messages about alcohol, it's not surprising that so many women are unaware of the threat that even a small amount of alcohol poses to their child. Awareness of the problem is the first step to solving it. I'm asking this government to ensure that the women of B.C. are informed decision-makers. I'm committed to taking this discussion further, hon. Speaker, and I would today give a notice of motion to bring forward to this House.
WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS:
IT'S OUR BUSINESS
J. Pullinger: This morning I'd like to make a few comments about women who own and run their own businesses in British Columbia -- women entrepreneurs. I gave a speech on the subject not so long ago to a group of women who run businesses, entitled "Women Entrepreneurs: It's Our Business," and I would like to argue that it's not only our business as women in business, but it's our business as legislators, because what we do in this House will obviously make a difference in the climate in which women operate.
We all know that women play an important role in the economy in Canada, and that women have always played that kind of a role. Happily, that role is being recognized, and it's now easier for women to move into other fields, whatever their inclinations may be, including entrepreneurial activities. It's important to note also, though, that in spite of the fact that there are large numbers of women moving into the business world as owners, there are still some extra hurdles and problems that women face. Any of my colleagues or members opposite who have been in business, as I have, know that owning and operating a small business is not easy for anyone. But women in business, like women in most pursuits in life, particularly public life, face extra obstacles.
I want to address some of those today; but, before I do, I would like to say that I hope everyone in the House will be willing to recognize that these problems do exist and to work together and support those initiatives of this government to level the playing-field a little for women.
First, it is worth noting the important role that small business plays in the economy of this province. I think most of us are aware of that. There are a lot of people in this House who have run a small business. It is an important role. Small business is the backbone of the Canadian and B.C. economy. It produces something like 60 percent of all the jobs. Small business also tends to be socially responsible. And those dollars gained by those small businesses are fed back into the local economy; they stay here in B.C. So small business plays a critically important role. I think we all recognize that, and we all want to encourage it.
What's not as commonly known is what women's role has been in small business and what women's role is becoming. As I mentioned previously, women have always played a role in the business life of this country. Therefore women entrepreneurs are certainly not a new phenomenon. Women have participated in the marketplace in a variety of entrepreneurial activities over history -- I draw on my historical background. For instance, as far back as this province exists, some women have made money running businesses in terms of farm produce, garden produce or baked goods. Others have run boarding houses. Women have earned a living as midwives, healers and seamstresses. Some women owned shops. Others ran businesses from their homes in what is now known as cottage industry in the rediscovery of women in business. Women in business is not new, but what is new is the number of women getting involved in the economy as entrepreneurs. Fully one-third of the businesses in British Columbia today are owned by women. That's an interesting statistic, but what I find really interesting is that three-quarters of all the new businesses being created today are being created by women. Women have an excellent success rate with their businesses; they have a very low failure rate. It's projected that by the end of this decade a full 50 percent of businesses in British Columbia will be owned by women.
You might be tempted to ask at this juncture: what's the problem then, if women are increasing in numbers in the business world and women are succeeding? I'd like to remind members that women in the job market face a glass ceiling. They earn, on average, about 65 cents on the male dollar for comparable work, work of the same value or equivalent work that requires the same or even more skills. So women in the job market face a glass ceiling. Women entrepreneurs face what has been dubbed a glass box. Women's businesses, for a number of reasons, tend not to earn as much as men's businesses. In fact, the ratio of women's to men's earning in business is precisely parallel to women's to men's wages in the marketplace -- approximately two-thirds. Women's businesses tend to earn about 65
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percent of what men's businesses earn. That, of course, is because there are some unique barriers, as I mentioned earlier, and some obstacles that women entrepreneurs face that men don't.
There are several barriers. One of the items mentioned in a recent report put out by the ministry is that women lack self-confidence and feel they lack the skills. I think that reflects on women's conditioning, where little boys were allowed to be angry but not cry and little girls were allowed to cry but not be angry. Women therefore tend not to be as aggressive, and when a problem happens, tend to look inwardly rather than outwardly. Happily, I think that role is starting to change, but it's one of the factors. Another very major barrier that our government is starting to address is women's role in the home. Women are still the primary caretakers of children. It's estimated that when a women gets home from her full day of work, she spends another eight hours a day looking after the home and family. That burden continues to fall to women.
I know from my experience that women tend to have excellent, broad networks of bright, articulate women. The male networks that my colleagues have access to are similar. They include men with all of these qualities. However, I'd like to point out that the male networks have something that female networks don't have, and that is power. The male network includes heads of corporations, directors of boards, senior management, university top brass, professionals from all walks of life, most of whom have access to money and information and therefore access to power that women tend not to have. The historic exclusion of women from things like the Union Club and the Rotary -- I'm happy that it's starting to change -- has made a big difference.
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L. Stephens: It is my pleasure to rise in response to the member for Cowichan-Ladysmith's statement on women in business this morning. As a former independent realtor for 13 years in my constituency of Langley, I can attest to some of the difficulty women entrepreneurs face but also the satisfaction of owning and managing one's own business.
The number of business start-ups by women has increased dramatically in the last five years, from 13 percent in 1986 to 36.6 percent in 1991. Those are just the incorporated companies; those don't take into consideration sole proprietorships or partnerships.
Part of the motivation for being your own boss is to have control over your life, to be independent, a personal need for achievement and to be able to accommodate work and family responsibilities.
As the member for Cowichan-Ladysmith pointed out, the major difficulties facing women entrepreneurs also include the availability of financing and management training. During the estimates of the Ministry of Economic Development, Small Business and Trade, I urged the minister to make sure that government assistance to women entrepreneurs provided real solutions and not simply window-dressing, and I'm happy to hear that the members opposite agree.
I'm sure all members of the House will join me in recognizing the important contributions that women entrepreneurs have made to business growth in their communities and to the prosperity of British Columbia.
R. Neufeld: Businesswomen in our province are vital to the expansion and diversification of our economy. Women throughout B.C. own large and small businesses. Women throughout B.C. own and manage shops, service outlets and large corporations. Women throughout B.C. also manage many home-based businesses. British Columbia businesswomen are involved in every key sector of our provincial economy. They make significant contributions to the economy in terms of stimulating economic activity, creating jobs, manufacturing goods and providing services.
Women in B.C. are starting businesses at three times the rate of men and represent the fastest-growing segment of the small business population. Indeed, StatsCan figures show that in 1986, 29 percent of all self-employed people in British Columbia were women, and in June 1991 that figure had grown to almost 33 percent. Women become business owners for a variety of reasons. The one reason cited the most, however, was self-satisfaction and independence, followed by self-development.
The major problem still cited by women in established businesses is obtaining financing. It is remarkable that the majority of women use their own assets for financing business start-ups. Seventy-three percent said that personal savings were their primary source of start-up funding. It is for this reason that government must strive to encourage women to enter the business environment, including the expansion of business counselling and resource centres.
Attitudes are changing, especially in the business sector, as women are now making the inroads they deserve, accomplished through their hard work and determination. Women in business throughout British Columbia are, and will be, the innovators of today and tomorrow.
J. Pullinger: I think we have identified very clearly some of the problems that women face. It is also imperative that we are not complacent. The member for Peace River North has certainly outlined -- as did the member for Langley, and myself before that -- the fact that women are entering businesses in unprecedented numbers. Women are also very successful in the businesses that they start. However, as I pointed out earlier, the key point to remember is that women who own their own businesses earn two-thirds of what men who own their own businesses earn.
Therefore there are some structural problems in the economy and in this society that we need to address. One of them, of course, is financing in the banks. Happily, that's beginning to change. Until very recently, women had to get their father, brother or partner -- whomever -- to sign to even get a loan. Some banks still do that, unfortunately, but it is beginning to change.
The irony, I believe, is that women move out of the corporate world into their own businesses to use their own skills but also because the structure of the corporate world is built around the male life cycle, not around the female life cycle. It's too rigid and it doesn't
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work for women. They face discrimination, those glass ceilings, and an inability to go on and make the higher dollar. The irony, of course, is that when women move out into their own businesses, they discover that those same obstacles are there for them.
So what do we do? I think we need to address the very fact that women don't really need encouragement to enter businesses. We need to change our society, change some assumptions about women and break down those very real barriers, the most important one being in terms of financing, so that we can level the field a little so women can make a bit more and be more economically successful in business.
A recognition that those problems exist is a starting place: the recognition of the history of women's place; the flaws in our economic theory, which has never even valued women's work; and the fact that the institutions that we've built don't work for women. Then we need to deal with the very real issues of things like pay equity, so women can accumulate capital to move into the business world in a different and more powerful way. That is an issue of fundamental justice, obviously, but it also has a lot to do with business.
Women still carry the burden of child care. We need to support this government's initiatives on child care and on programs that help women get the education, the networking and the access to capital they need. We need to do a lot of public education to change the discriminatory attitudes that continue to hold women back.
I think it's worth recognizing that we have come a long way in the last couple of decades. But it's imperative to also recognize that we have a tremendous way to go before women will be on an even footing with men in the economic life of this country, whether it's in the job market or in business.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
A. Warnke: At the outset I want to emphasize that the title may be slightly misleading, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the legislation that has been introduced this morning. The second point, which I want to raise just briefly as well, is that this idea is also a product of my colleague the member for West Vancouver-Garibaldi, who has expressed some of the concerns that I'm about to discuss this morning.
It essentially has to do with the fact that while the freedom-of-information legislation that was brought forward this morning may deal with one aspect of freedom of information -- this is to be commended, and we'll debate that later -- there is yet another aspect of freedom of information that I want to explore. That is the extent to which this government has expressed how it intends to be open and accessible, not only to the public and the press but indeed to members of this Legislature.
As for the public and the press, we shall see, but in this Legislature what has concerned members on our side is that where the government has claimed to be open, my colleagues have felt that maybe the government is failing. They have not failed, because the session is not over; they have not failed as yet, because we still hold some faith that this government will hold to its initial promise of being open and allowing information to be forthcoming.
In our original articulation of intending to offer constructive opposition and embark on a new chapter of British Columbia politics and government.... Such an opposition depends on an open government willing to release documents and statements that allow it to examine the conduct of the government and assess its performance. A constructive opposition can be beneficial to all members of this Legislature, including the members of the executive council.
One example I am referring to particularly -- and it's one that has been raised by my colleague from West Vancouver-Garibaldi -- is the placing of 32 written questions at the beginning of the session. One aspect of these questions concerned a number of contracts and appointments by this government through to March 26. We would submit that had this government responded, maybe it would have been able to avoid some of the subsequent embarrassment experienced during this session.
I think it is worthwhile to outline again -- and, I hope, for the last time -- what a constructive opposition is. Constructive opposition does not mean no critical analysis of the government or a slight critical analysis of the government. It does not mean a complete capitulation to the agenda of the government. It does not mean that a critic must be necessarily subservient to a minister, or treated as such. No legislator can accept that premise.
We have been very well aware during the early months of this year that we would be facing estimates, and one very good reason for asking the written questions was to expedite the time required for such. As we take a look at the answers from the government, our concern -- my concern especially -- is that some answers have not been forthcoming, and no effort has been made by some to provide statements and answers, especially to the 32 written questions.
Not only would this aid the opposition's role, but I believe that it would expedite the entire legislative process and be highly beneficial to the government and the executive council. We are in the middle of a session, and unless there is a change in response to these questions submitted, we are nowhere near the end of the session.
I want to take this opportunity to suggest to the government that it re-examine its premise -- at least among the members of the executive who accept that the legislative branch is somehow subservient to it -- and once again cooperate, as the executive council did at the outset, with releasing information that facilitates the role of the opposition and of all legislators.
B. Jones: Hon. Speaker, it's a pleasure for me to rise and respond to the topic which has the title of "Freedom of Information." It's very fortuitous that this statement arose today, because this is a very proud day for me and for this province. It's a day for celebration. This is a day that I have been waiting for for many years, and many people who have sat in this chamber have been waiting for it for many years longer than I
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have. This is an important day in British Columbia, because today the Attorney General has let the sun shine in.
Today marks the beginning of the end of the dark ages in the province of British Columbia for the government of British Columbia. Today is the day when we saw landmark legislation introduced in this chamber in the name of Bill 50, the freedom of information and protection of privacy legislation.
This is a very important piece of legislation. One of the reasons is that the largest library in British Columbia is the government of British Columbia. The problem with that is that nobody has a library card. The size of this library would fill not just this chamber, not just the entire parliament buildings.... It is filled with paper documents that the public has paid for that would fill 13 legislative chambers -- 13 buildings the size of the parliament buildings.
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I assume that since Confederation, not a week has gone by when we haven't seen secrecy in government, particularly in the last years when the previous government operated with a veil of secrecy to the degree of having a siege mentality. Decisions were made behind closed doors, and the public had no window on what was happening. We know that taxpayers have paid for that information, and that it's important information for those taxpayers to have. That's information that the public needs to know if the government is operating in their best interests.
In recent years we've seen cover-ups on government loan portfolios, stonewalling on sectoral analysis on the free trade agreement and secrecy on pulp mill compliance records. We've seen the government being less than forthcoming on the Expo land deal. We've seen obstruction in terms of government flight logs and a lack of openness on such things as details of privatization arrangements. Today we see legislation introduced in this chamber that is going to absolutely guarantee the public's right to know those kinds of matters.
As I mentioned earlier, this issue has a long and proud history in this chamber -- a proud history of private members' bills. Those private members' bills came from members of a variety of political parties; they crossed all party lines. The first one was introduced by a New Democrat. Alec Macdonald introduced Bill 41 in the spring of 1972; in that year it was called An Act to Provide for Public Scrutiny. A year later Garde Gardom, who was a Liberal before he crossed the floor to become a Social Credit member, introduced Bill 125 -- a very similar bill to Mr. Macdonald's. As we all know, Mr. Gardom is our agent general in London. On March 30, 1976, Scott Wallace -- whom I just happened to speak to last evening -- who was a member of the Conservative Party, introduced a freedom of information act. That was followed a year later by Gordon Gibson, a member of the Liberal Party, who didn't cross the floor to become a Social Credit member. He sat over there right next to Mr. Wallace, and I don't know whether it was cross-fertilization at that time, but he introduced a very similar bill in 1977. Then in 1980, 1981, 1985 and 1986 my predecessor, Eileen Dailly, introduced freedom of information legislation to this chamber. For the last five years I have had the honour and privilege of carrying that torch in this chamber with my five bills on freedom of information and privacy.
The Speaker: I regret, hon. member, your time has expired.
A. Warnke: Actually, the comments by the member for Burnaby North are most appropriate, and I'm rather optimistic of his view. I hope we can remain optimistic, because he has outlined very nicely the quest and the drive for freedom of information. Indeed, part of his statement dovetails with mine as well -- a concern. I suppose what I am submitting this morning is a warning. We welcome the freedom of information legislation that is being introduced through Bill 50, and we will debate it, but it is definitely what we would like to see.
As well, I think in good faith, to follow through on freedom of information, response to written questions that have been put forward by the opposition, as pointed out by my colleague for West Vancouver-Garibaldi, would be conducive to this thrust and the belief of access to information and freedom of information. We were promised answers before the estimates and so forth -- and it is the minister's choice; we recognize that -- but the failure to respond, the failure of the ministers to understand the nature of what is being requested here does put into question whether this may be a truly open government.
I share the optimism of the member for Burnaby North. Perhaps we will see some movement that will bring us a new chapter which explores all aspects of government and makes government more conducive for what is truly a democracy for all of us. Motions on Notice
CHINESE HEAD TAX
Hon. G. Clark: I am delighted today, after consultations with the opposition parties, to call the first motion on the order paper, under the name of the member for Vancouver-Kensington. I will read it to the House:
"Be it resolved that this House calls on the government of Canada to expeditiously provide a reasonable redress for the injustice of the Chinese head tax, an issue of concern to all Canadians, and the Chinese Canadians in particular. The said redress must be provided and agreed upon in consultations with the Chinese Canadian community."
In discussion with the opposition parties, there has been agreement to limit the speeches to 15 minutes so that many members can participate in this discussion.
On Motion 1.
U. Dosanjh: With the introduction of freedom of information legislation, with the statement from my good friend the hon. member for Richmond-Steveston and the reply from the member for Burnaby, as well as the statement from the hon. member for Mission-Kent, all of that sets the stage very appropriately for
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what I want to talk about today. I want to deal with the head tax imposed on the Chinese Canadian community by the federal government commencing in 1885, which was then terminated in 1923.
In 1923, on the heels of the cancellation of the head tax, came the Chinese exclusion act -- otherwise known as the Chinese Immigration Act. This excluded -- with very minor exceptions -- any further immigration from China, therefore separating families for years. People who were here would return to China, either get married or meet their wives and have children, and then come back. After many years of living here again, they would go back and see their families and perhaps have some more children. You saw the turmoil and the torture perpetrated on that part of our community; in fact, an ancient community in terms of our history, a community that started dropping its roots in British Columbia in 1858, over 130 years ago.
This is a historic day because it was at the urging of many politicians in British Columbia that eventually the federal government caved in and imposed the head tax in 1885. It's a historic day because many of our pioneers who were in the halls of the Legislature -- perhaps in other chambers or this chamber -- asked for the imposition of that head tax.
I stand here today not to find fault with those pioneers who built this province and this country. I stand here to recognize those other pioneers who were the victims of this injustice and who also contributed to the building of this province and to the building of this country -- the Chinese Canadians who have over the last 130 years worked very, very hard along with other British Columbians and Canadians to make this province and this country what it is today.
As most of the members would know, it is important for this body to send a message to Ottawa for three reasons: the racial hostility towards the Chinese Canadians actually originated in this part of Canada; the federal head tax was imposed on the Chinese Canadians at the urging of the British Columbia politicians; all of Canada, including British Columbia, have benefited from the proceeds of that injustice, which amounted to some $23 million between 1885 to 1923 and which would today amount to over $1 billion. That is a horrendous sum, indicating the horrendous injustice perpetrated upon those Chinese Canadians who paid that head tax and became contributing citizens of this country and residents of this province.
I don't want to sound like a professor of history, but I want to take you through the chronology of the legislation that was introduced or passed both in British Columbia and federally. I will simply give you the name of the attempt or the legislation, and briefly what it did or attempted to do.
In the year 1860, the colony of Vancouver Island introduced legislation proposing a $10 head tax on all Chinese entrants into Canada, and fortunately that was defeated. In 1871 in the B.C. Legislative Council, legislation was introduced proposing a $50 head tax, and fortunately that was defeated. Obviously people of conscience existed even then, and we have to recognize that. In 1872 in the B.C. Legislature a piece of legislation was introduced attempting to exclude Chinese labour on public works projects, and that was defeated. In 1875 in the B.C. Legislature the Qualifications and Registration of Voters Act was passed, thereby taking away the right of Chinese Canadians to vote in elections in British Columbia, and that legislation was passed.
In 1878 the B.C. Legislature proposed legislation imposing a $10 special tax on Chinese Canadians. It was passed, but ruled unconstitutional by the courts in British Columbia. In 1884 the B.C. Legislature again introduced an act to prevent Chinese from acquiring Crown land. It was declared ultra vires by the courts in British Columbia. A further act to prevent Chinese immigration was disallowed by the Governor General of Canada. The Chinese Regulation Act was declared ultra vires by the courts in British Columbia. In 1884 the dominion government appointed a Royal Commission on Chinese Immigration. I want members to note that it was around that time, 1884, 1885, that the Canadian Pacific Railway was completed. In 1884 the dominion government appointed a Royal Commission on Chinese immigration. In 1885 the dominion government, again: an act to restrict and regulate Chinese immigration into Canada, and a $50 head tax was imposed. That was the first time the federal government, succumbing to the pressure from British Columbia, imposed that head tax.
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In 1900 the dominion government again: the Chinese Immigration Act. The head tax, raised to $100, effective 1902, passed. In 1903 the dominion government: Chinese Immigration Act, head tax raised to $500, effective 1904. In 1903 the B.C. Legislature: the removal of the municipal franchise from the Chinese Canadians thereby excluding them from certain professions in British Columbia. In 1922 dominion government: a resolution in favour of terminating Chinese immigration passed, effective July 1, 1923. In 1923 the dominion Government again: Chinese Immigration Act, banning immigration generally of any Chinese into Canada, with the exception of merchants, university students, Canadian-born Chinese and diplomatic personnel. That 1923 act excluding Chinese from immigrating into Canada was repealed, and in 1947 the B.C. Legislature granted Chinese Canadians the right to vote in this province.
That is the unfortunate history of the injustice suffered by thousands of Chinese Canadians and their descendants over the years. It's important to recognize that, because if we as a society don't recognize that, we don't make any progress.
In 1885 the attempts to exclude Chinese from certain rights or impose certain restrictions began. In this province attempts began in the 1860s. But the federal government -- the dominion government then -- needed Chinese labour to complete the Canadian Pacific Railway, because there were certain dangerous areas where other British Columbians refused to work, where only the imported Chinese labourer would work.
Many of these immigrants who paid this head tax rendered their families in China landless and deep in debt. They came to this country -- many at a young age -- and worked under those circumstances where they had no equality. Of course, the difficulty with building
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the railway delayed the imposition of the head tax, but the contractors believed that any race that could build the Wall of China could build the CPR. Those were in fact the words uttered by some of the contractors who wanted to import Chinese labour for that purpose.
Between 1880 and 1884 more than 15,000 Chinese labourers were brought into Canada, either from China or the United States of America. There were, as I said, the dangerous sections of the CPR. From Boston Bar to Lytton it was so serious that there were great difficulties in getting men who were willing to be suspended by ropes to drill holes in chasm walls for explosives. Therefore the Chinese labourers were sent for. The construction sites were so dangerous that they were given infamous names like Hell's Gate, Jaws of Death Arch, and Indictment Hole. Accidents were frequent, and many Chinese Canadians died during the construction of that railway. The sad irony of all this was that when the last spike was driven with an elaborate ceremony, not a single Chinese Canadian was present at that ceremony.
I want to talk about a man who was recently mentioned in an article in the Vancouver Sun, and I want essentially to be referring to the article in the Vancouver Sun because it depicts a picture for all of us. He came when he was 11 years old, in 1912. He paid a $500 head tax to enter Canada. He worked all his life. In fact, he left his family landless and deeply in debt. Imagine the torture and the turmoil, the emotional strain and the physical labour that he might have gone through, when from 1923 to 1947 he could not be reunited with any members of his family unless he himself went back to China. I want to quote from the Vancouver Sun article, where he says: "You can't imagine the struggle of an 11-year-old Chinese boy in that do-or-die situation in Canada, trying to grow up in a society that valued their horses and dogs far above any Chinese." This gentleman served in the latter stages of the Second World War and underwent commando training. He and many others have made tremendous contributions to the building of this province and this country and to the prosperity that we enjoy today.
All he is saying is essentially this: "I'm hoping and praying that an all-party apology on the Chinese head tax will soon be a reality for all of us head-tax payers." He says that the suffering and the injustice that our Chinese Canadians have suffered and tolerated over the years would only be redressed with that apology. In terms of the compensation, I don't think money is important. Someone from the head-tax payers says: "You can give us a token compensation, but give us the apology so that we feel that we and our descendants belong in this country." And they certainly do belong, because they have made significant contributions to the building of this province and this country.
It is extremely disturbing that the federal government has been lobbied.... Representations have been made to them over the years. In fact, the first head-tax payer to raise this issue back in the early eighties -- with Margaret Mitchell, the Member of Parliament for Vancouver East, who raised it in the House -- has already passed away. Time is running out. I understand there are less than 200 surviving head-tax payers. It's important that we, as a society and a province, send a message to our children that we are willing to review history, look at our mistakes, stand tall, admit the mistakes and in the attempt to bring all of our citizens into the Canadian fold in a real and meaningful way, offer an apology to them. It is not infra dignitatem. It is not beneath our dignity as Canadians and as British Columbians. In fact, it only enhances our dignity to ask the federal government to do what's right and what's just and not delay it even one day more.
L. Reid: I rise today in support of my colleague for Vancouver-Kensington. We are facing ongoing discrimination in our society, and it must be confronted. One hundred years have passed, and it is only today, May 22, 1992, that we are addressing the Chinese head tax. All Canadians must be part of the solution, and together we must formulate a response to both the Chinese exclusion act and the head tax.
Chinese immigrants first came to Canada in 1858. Starting in 1880 thousands of Chinese workers were brought over to build Canada's national railway and were paid starvation wages. Right after the last spike was driven in 1885, our Canadian government responded by imposing a head tax on each Chinese person entering Canada. This was a unique and clearly racist act of Parliament. From 1885 to 1923 all Chinese immigrants in our country were forced to pay the head tax. It started at $50 and rose to $100 in 1900. By 1903 each Chinese person had to pay $500 to enter Canada. At that time, this amounted to over two years' wages for a Chinese worker in Canada. From 1885 to 1923 the Canadian government collected about $23 million in head taxes from over 81,000 Chinese immigrants. With interest, this amount is worth over $1 billion today. It is significant that the Canadian government, while profiting from this racist legislation, was paying European immigrants to settle the same land that our Chinese Canadian pioneers helped to open up with the national railway.
My grandfather was born in 1901 in Ukraine. He came to Canada as a young boy and settled on the Canadian prairies. His family continues to farm the land to this day. His parents were the recipients of land and settlement costs and all of those things from this government. It is abundantly unfair that we would treat one group of immigrants differently than another group who wished to settle in Canada and help build this country.
The Chinese exclusion act -- 1923 to 1947 -- was an inhuman and expensive undertaking, but it was followed by more racist measures. The Immigration Act, more properly named the Chinese exclusion act, effective on July 1, 1923, closed the doors on Chinese immigration. Fewer than 50 Chinese people entered Canada between 1923 and 1947, when the exclusion act was finally and mercifully repealed.
In addition to continuing the cruel separation of families, the Chinese exclusion act also required every resident of Chinese origin to register with the Canadian government. It is little wonder that until the repeal of the act in 1947 Chinese Canadians never celebrated Dominion Day, or Canada Day. Instead, July 1 was seen
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as humiliation day. The head tax followed by the Chinese exclusion act represents 62 years of legislated racism. The suffering of individuals and the damage to the Chinese Canadian community must not be underestimated.
If we were to offer any suggestions to improve this motion, it would be to further strengthen the resolution. We would suggest adding a reference to the Chinese exclusion act, as this horrific legislation served to separate families for decades. Some remain separated from their loved ones even to this day. The same issue should be resolved in consultation with the head tax claimants, who are the victims of the racist legislation.
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We feel that the term "Chinese-Canadian community" is too broad in scope, as we are seeking justice at the individual level. Perhaps a compromise could be a reference to the head-tax claimants and Chinese Canadians in our communities.
Certainly the hon. member for Vancouver-Kensington and I have participated in a number of events -- the Chinese Canadian National Council and the National Redress Committee. They believe they are entering a critical stage in their campaign for justice. Certainly this is affecting most predominantly the elderly pioneers in the Chinese-Canadian community. Justice for fewer than 1,000 surviving head-tax payers cannot wait. There are many elderly widows who are suffering inhumanely from our racist legislation that impoverished families and kept family members separated for decades.
For some, the Chinese exclusion act served to separate Chinese Canadians from their loved ones for an entire lifetime. That is an issue which speaks very strongly to me. The Chinese-Canadian community in my riding of Richmond East is almost a bachelor community. A number of these individuals were not able to return to China and were not able to afford to bring their family members over. The exclusion act contributed to the destruction of a number of families in my community because some 25 years elapsed. Certainly 25 years in terms of keeping a family together is very difficult.
I believe that leadership in this government is required to redress these past injustices in a just and honourable manner. I stand today with my colleague from Vancouver-Kensington on this issue which affects us all. This is not a party issue. This is an issue of fundamental human rights that I believe we must all promote before another day passes.
Hon. G. Clark: I'm proud to rise to speak in favour of this motion as the Minister of Finance and, importantly, as the MLA for Vancouver-Kingsway. Vancouver-Kingsway has a proud tradition of CCF and NDP Members of Parliament and members of the Legislature who have spoken out in favour of human rights in this country, both in good times and in bad. Canadians such as Angus and Grace MacInnis spent their lives fighting for voting rights for Chinese Canadians and against the Chinese exclusion act, opposing the internment of Japanese Canadians and seeking justice for all Canadians.
CCF-NDP members, candidates and elected representatives, particularly in the 1930s, were viciously attacked for this advocacy by political opponents and in the press. I'd like to read to the House today an ad placed in the Daily Province on October 7, 1935: "Fifty thousand Orientals in B.C. CCF party stands pledged to give them the vote. The Liberal Party is opposed to giving these Orientals the vote. A vote for any CCF candidate is a vote to give the Chinaman and Japanese the same voting right that you have." And it goes on.
Another ad produced by the Conservative Party went as follows: "Fifty thousand Orientals in B.C. to whom neither the Conservative nor the Liberal Party will give the vote, but there are 40 million Orientals in Japan who threaten Canada's workers and industry. Vote Conservative."
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I don't quote these for any partisan reason. Clearly those two parties have long since changed their views. However, it demonstrates both the racism of the time and the courage to fight racism of some of my predecessors in the movement that I belong to. They persisted, and in the end Chinese Canadians -- and indeed, all Canadians -- have won significant victories over prejudice and racism.
The imposition of the Chinese head tax and later the Chinese exclusion act represents one of the worst chapters in Canadian history. With respect to the Chinese head tax, between 1885 and 1923 every Chinese immigrant was forced to pay a tax of between $50 and $500. As the B.C. Coalition of Head-Tax Payers, Spouses and Descendants has noted, this was no small amount of money. For the average Chinese immigrant this represented two years' wages. The total amount paid by Chinese immigrants was staggering. Between 1905 and 1914 alone, the government of Canada collected $13.8 million from the Chinese. This figure is equivalent to about 8 percent of all excise duties and about 14 percent of the national defence budget of the day. The number of Chinese Canadians in Canada accounted for only 0.39 percent of the population at the time. Approximately 81,000 Chinese Canadians paid the head tax in those years. At the same time -- as the previous speaker has noted -- Canada was actually paying European immigrants to settle on the prairies. I might add that, although the Chinese head tax was a federal initiative, it was introduced at the request of the British Columbia government after provincial legislation had failed to establish a head tax. Over 80 percent of Chinese head-tax payers lived in British Columbia.
In 1923 the House of Commons in Ottawa passed the Chinese exclusion act. This barred Chinese immigrants from entering Canada. This racist law resulted in the separation of numerous families and enormous distress in the Chinese-Canadian community. It also required every Canadian resident of Chinese origin to register with the Canadian government. Only a handful of Chinese immigrants were able to enter Canada in this period. Between 1931 and 1941 the total population of Chinese Canadians dropped from 46,000 to 35,000. The
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head tax and the Chinese exclusion act represent 62 years of legislated racism in Canada.
The Chinese-Canadian community has always responded to racism with courage, endurance and vision. They organized. In 1906 the Chinese Benevolent Association was formed. When, in 1907, Chinese schoolchildren were banned from public schools in British Columbia, the CBA built a school of its own. After the infamous race riots, when some 30,000 people rampaged through Chinatown in Vancouver, the CBA demanded compensation from the government of Canada. They fought the head tax and the exclusion act during the Depression, and provided food, bedding, transit and medicine for the elderly and the sick. In 1939, when this country went to war, many Chinese Canadians enlisted in the armed forces and fought for this country, despite the fact that they were systematically discriminated against at home.
Chinese Canadians have made an enormous contribution to our province and our country. Many of the victims of the Chinese head tax and the Chinese exclusion act presently live in my constituency of Vancouver-Kingsway. They are seeking redress from the federal government for the head tax and the exclusion act, and I strongly support their efforts.
The issue was put in context recently by Sgt. Wing Wong, a head-tax payer and decorated World War II veteran, who urged the federal government to redress this issue. He said: "It would give my mind a great sense of relief and ease." A lifetime of insufferable racial injustices was heaped upon this person, who has proven to be as upright, law-abiding and patriotic as anyone who has set foot in this wonderful country of ours. He said: "Do it now, do it fairly and do a good job."
Hon. Speaker, this is indeed an historic day, as this House in many respects was the leading force in imposing the head tax and the exclusion act. I think it does a great sense of justice for all members of this House to vote unanimously in favour of this resolution in recognition of that shameful part of British Columbia's history.
D. Symons: I too wish to add my support to the motion, a motion that I'm sure every member of this House will support. I believe it's most appropriate that a motion to redress the Chinese head tax act, which was an infamous act in its day, should come from this House because -- as the previous member has said -- this was an act that, in a sense, was promoted and encouraged by the government of the day in British Columbia. I think it appropriate that redress because of that action back then should come from the same House, and I would commend the government for bringing forth this motion.
We cannot erase the wrongs committed in the past against people based on their different colour of skin, their language or their religion. However, we can recognize and acknowledge the injustices performed upon them.
Recognition is the first step in correcting the problems of prejudice. I believe the key word in this motion is "redress," because that word allows the flexibility that's going to be needed to provide different responses to those groups that have been discriminated against. Redress need not be monetary, but should, as the motion states, be negotiated with the affected communities.
Japanese and Chinese Canadians suffered an overt and financial discrimination. Many other groups have also been subject to the humiliation of prejudice: East Indians, West Indians, Blacks, eastern Europeans, Canadian aboriginal peoples, Quebeckers, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs. Many groups have been discriminated against by people in our country, and I'm afraid that when I was a youngster, I took part in some of that as well. I've learned from my mistakes of the past and am now sorry for them.
The point is that prejudice has been alive in our past and in this country, and it is still alive -- maybe less overtly -- today. Redress is but one step in addressing past and present prejudices. We can see only too painfully how prejudices and injustices left untreated can lead to situations such as we see in Ireland and Yugoslavia, or even the recent race riots in the United States. Redress won't right the wrongs, but it will help to heal the hurts and the wounds. I urge all to support this motion.
C. Serwa: I'm also pleased to rise and speak in support of the motion put forward by the member for Vancouver-Kensington. Canada is often haunted by history, and I think it should be said at this time that Ukrainians, Italians and Chinese, as well as Japanese -- the issue of the private member's statement this morning -- seek redress of their historic ill-treatment by Ottawa. We say Ottawa and we can say British Columbia, but we can really say the people and the society of that day and of that time, and that the politicians were a reflection of the society.
The nature of Canada has changed a great deal, and I think we've come a very long way. However, an internment camp existed in World War I in the shadow of Castle Mountain in Banff National Park where hundreds of Canadians of Ukrainian extraction were sent. Their crime? Their homeland -- Galicia and Bukovina in the western Ukraine -- was under the Austro-Hungarian empire, and thus Canada regarded them as enemy aliens. Some 5,000 Ukrainian Canadians were taken from homesteads, from the prairies, from lumber camps in Quebec and from factories in southern Ontario. Men, and in some cases women and children, were imprisoned in 26 camps strung across Canada. After years of inactivity by successive national governments, the present federal government has recognized and attempted to right historical wrongs. Prime Minister Mulroney offered an unqualified apology on behalf of all Canadians and the Canadian government to Italian Canadians who were interned during the Second World War.
Today we are speaking primarily about the injustice of the Chinese head tax. Representatives of the Chinese Canadian Council are seeking compensation for $23 million in head taxes paid by Chinese immigrants to Canada in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. There are two schools of thought on this. One
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says to ignore, and say that these historical injustices never happened. The other school of thought says to acknowledge and deal with the historical injustices, in the belief that a strong country is capable of looking at its past and resolving those injustices. The latter is the appropriate course. The appropriate course must be taken, and it must happen.
Earlier in the private member's statement by the member for Mission-Kent on Japanese Canadians.... They received $39 million as global compensation to fund a Canadian race relations foundation and various community programs. Individual Japanese Canadians who were interned were entitled to a cash payment of $21,000. Eighteen thousand Canadians of Japanese origin who were interned have applied, and the payments will exceed $400 million.
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Since 1984, Canada's Chinese communities have been seeking an acknowledgement of the injustice they endured as a result of the Chinese exclusion act, which prohibited all Chinese immigration to Canada from 1923 to 1947. In addition, the community is seeking $23 million -- the actual cost of the day of the head tax imposed on Chinese immigrants to Canada between 1885 and 1923. The requests are fair and just, and they are based on a people's suffering because of a deliberate racial policy on the part of governments of the day. The request must be met, and doing so will send a clear message that racism will not be tolerated in our multicultural Canada of today.
Canada is the world's first truly international country. The tapestry of Canada is woven of threads representing every race, colour and religion of the world. We can and must continue to provide leadership to the world in order to demonstrate that in Canada -- a land of freedom, opportunity and liberty -- diverse peoples laugh, work, play and cry together.
Chinese Canadians have built -- and continue to build -- a British Columbia and a Canada that provides peace, prosperity and security for all Canadians. Whether in business, agriculture, the professions -- medicine, the arts, sciences -- or in the workforce, Canadians of Chinese origin are a vital part of this nation.
I am very pleased, on behalf of my party, to support the motion brought forward by the member for Vancouver-Kensington.
Hon. T. Perry: Hon. Speaker, I will be very brief because the eloquence of the member for Vancouver-Kensington who moved this motion -- and of subsequent speakers -- has covered most of the ground that I might have addressed. I speak in support of the motion. Through you, hon. Speaker, and through other members of the assembly, I want to speak to our colleagues in the federal Parliament and in the government of Canada.
The hon. member for Vancouver-Kensington took us through the history of the head tax and exclusion acts, which is covered in a book I studied briefly, from the library, entitled In the Sea of Sterile Mountains, published in 1973, by James Morton. The photographs in this book describe equally eloquently that period of the history of our province. A photograph of two Chinese-Canadian children on a main street in Barkerville brings me back to my first experience of visiting Barkerville in 1963 or 1964 and seeing, even at that time, the evidence of the history of Chinese-Canadian immigrants who had struggled to make their way, like the other miners, up into the Cariboo, but who had a particular burden and a different burden. Not only did they undergo the indescribable horrors of the road construction in the Fraser Canyon and of the railway construction a decade or two later, but they also had to contend with the treatment described by the hon. member for Vancouver-Kensington as he concluded his remarks: the contempt of their fellow human beings. The very people who had undergone perhaps the worst suffering were held in the most contempt.
What is so sad and, I think, emphasizes our sense of urgency to the federal Parliament is what was described by other hon. members: the fact that the people of the first generation are now rapidly dying away. If the healing is to be accomplished in our province and country, it is very important that that be done while those people are still alive.
It is important that we reflect on how this affects us as well, as British Columbians living in 1992. It saddens me to think -- it infuriates me, but it saddens me more -- that virtually every time I visit one of the parks in my own neighbourhood in Vancouver, Jericho Park, I see a new anti-Chinese slogan written on the park benches. I have tried rubbing them out with my own hand. They are usually painted fairly indelibly, and it's not that easy to get them off. I've tried sitting on the bench to prevent other people from seeing the sign, but you can't sit there forever. I always find it very painful to have to walk away from the sign. Each time I do, I wonder what else I as a Canadian can possibly do to prevent this outrage from happening. They remind me so much of the signs that we used to hear about and think so smugly that they belonged to a different age: the signs in Shanghai on the Bund erected by the British colonial government or the American government that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed"; the same kinds of signs that we see in our history books from the past; and the cartoons that are printed in this book. Yet we are still seeing them today.
The true measure of the importance of this motion is not only the redress for those elderly citizens who did so much to build our country, but also the healing and the message that it will send to the rest of the country that our society simply doesn't tolerate that kind of attitude. I will support the motion. I will listen with interest to other members.
L. Krog: I seek leave of the House to make an introduction this morning.
Leave granted.
L. Krog: With great pleasure I introduce to the Legislature this morning teacher Dave Bullock and 48 students from Seaview School in Lantzville, one of the prettiest and loveliest communities on Vancouver Island. I'd ask the House to please make them welcome.
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V. Anderson: It is my privilege to stand with others in this House in support of this motion of redress directed to the federal government. As we all have said, it is a motion which is long overdue, and the reasons for it have been given here again and again today.
As I think back into my youth, the meeting place for us in our communities in small-town Saskatchewan was again and again the restaurant -- one or other of them in the town, depending which one would still allow us to come in. Basically, the restaurants that welcomed us were run by Chinese gentlemen. Over the years, as children, we always wondered why it was only gentlemen that were in those restaurants. There were never any others, just the Chinese gentlemen themselves.
It was only in later years that I discovered that it was because of just what we are talking about today that they were there by themselves. They were able to maintain themselves, and most of them lived very quietly at the back of the restaurant or above the restaurant, because as we discovered in later years, the money they earned from that restaurant was sent back to their families in China, families that were not allowed to join them, families that were not allowed to come or to share with them; and if they were to return to visit their families, they would not be allowed to come back and earn the funds that were so necessary for the keep of their families.
They were very devoted and excellent gentlemen over all the years. When I return to Nipawin even today, where do I go but to the restaurant run by some of those same Chinese gentlemen and now by their descendants? My privilege, not so many years ago in southern Saskatchewan, was to have a couple come to me for a wedding, one of whom turned out to be the granddaughter of one of those very same restaurant owners to whose restaurant I had gone as a child and spent so many happy hours. It is that kind of personal interaction with the Chinese -- or as some of them would like to say, the Canadians of Chinese origin or heritage, rather than Chinese Canadians.... It is interesting how that discussion has changed these days, both in the Chinese and the Japanese communities. Some of them would say, "Yes, I'm a Canadian of Japanese origin" or "I'm a Canadian of Chinese origin," rather than use the hyphenated name. Within their own communities they have the same experience themselves.
Sometimes when we think of redress, we think of the kind of money that we may be paying to people or the kind of physical tokens, and those may have their place. But even more important is the emotional, mental and spiritual sharing that we have with these people so that they might discover that it's not something that we're doing because we feel guilty, which probably we do. Guilt is not a good enough reason to be undertaking a redress action. We must undertake this action because it is an action that rightly belongs to the people we have wronged. It is an action that publicly states that we respect, admire and appreciate them as full and equal -- and many of them are even more equal than we are in their contribution to Canada. It's that kind of spiritual recognition that we need to be able to offer them. It needs to be not only an act of government on behalf of all of the people but a feeling and an act which affects us in the very way that we live and relate to other people.
One of the concerns that has been expressed -- and properly so -- is that this action should be taken because the individuals who paid the original head tax are passing on and their time is short, perhaps, with us. Apart from that, they would be the first to say that it is not only for their benefit but for their children's benefit and their children's children's benefit, because the kind of emotional heritage that you pass on from generation to generation, with the pain, suffering and separation they have shared, is not easily overcome. I'm sure that many of them are not thinking primarily about themselves, but thinking that their children will be able to say: "We have been recognized. Our parents have been recognized, and our parents have been accepted here in the Canadian scene."
When I became involved in politics, it was my privilege to work under the leadership of Art Lee. Art Lee was a Canadian of Chinese origin who was elected as a Member of Parliament for Vancouver East, a community where a great deal of this hurt and uncertainty has been felt over the years. As our hon. member opposite has mentioned, we cannot claim that this kind of thing could not happen again among us. We cannot claim that it could not happen among us unofficially or officially. We must be watchful, we must be careful and we must make sure that not only have we performed an outward act but somehow we have also performed a cleansing that will have a purification within our people right across the country. It is something that is part of us and that we must share.
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I rise today to share with the other members of this House not only in committing ourselves to urge the federal government to take an action of redress, but also to urge that we, in our activities within this House, undertake that every action in which we are engaged will be reminded by the history of which we are not proud, so that hopefully, in the generations yet to come, they will not be reading from the Hansard of this House, or from the bills that we have passed, and be able to point out mistakes that have been repeated. Hopefully, they will be able to say that we not only said what we believed, but more importantly, we acted it. I rise to support this redress motion that we might send it quickly to Ottawa for action.
Hon. A. Hagen: I rise to support what is a very strong and emotional debate in our Legislature today. I believe it is timely for us to be looking at this issue of historical discrimination when we are also looking at the future of our country. The trouble we have in considering how the early Chinese residents of our country were treated is very much associated with the history of our country, because the people who came from China to work in this land were working towards its physical unification as many of them helped to build one of the most challenging -- from an engineering standpoint -- transportation systems in the world of that day. We know that their work as early citizens -- although their citizenship was not recognized -- helped to bring us together from sea to sea.
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The length of this historical injustice is also troubling -- not a century, but three-quarters of a century. It's a long time in the young history of our nation. When one then considers that these people were penalized financially and in human terms for coming to this land, we know why it is important for us to act as a nation to deal with healing and, as the member for Vancouver-Langara said, with cleansing.
Every time we look at these issues of historical discrimination -- actions that we are part of as part of the history of our country -- we're reminded that others have occurred over time, injustices that have been a source of pain to ordinary citizens. We have come to know of these through individual stories and through books written by people who have been able to share their community's pain and experience with us through words. But I believe that only those who live that experience really know it, just as only the people of any group who are disempowered or disabled by history or circumstance can know about that. Addressing these historical injustices is very important for us as an active and considered perspective and action.
In the past we began to recognize that instead of burying it and saying that this is history and instead of ignoring the pain and distress that this causes very significant communities in our country, such as the Chinese community, we must bring those issues to the surface. In fact, as a people we must express our regret and deal with redress.
As a number of people have said today, we must do this not only for those who were directly affected -- the people who paid the head tax -- but for the families of those people, who were separated from the men who were husbands and fathers, and for the community of which they are a part. Indeed, we all know that the Chinese community is one for whom family is perhaps its most fundamental value. The nature of family relationships and the support of family is so vital to that community. It's one of the values that they bring to our society, which we know and recognize.
I want to add a personal story, because I find that personal stories very often help to epitomize the issue that we are talking about. I want to tell a story not from the perspective of the man who came here to work and who paid the head tax but from that of his wife and family. Fong Lee is now 82 years of age and was separated from her husband for 31 years because of the exclusion act. For that woman and her family that length of time was like a lifetime. We're dealing with many lifetimes for those families, as we look at this particular issue and seek action.
The intent of this motion today is for all of us to have an opportunity to bring forward this historic act of discrimination and injustice and to urge and exhort the federal government to deal with the issue in a timely and straightforward manner, to recognize that by giving redress in the form of an action that acknowledges that discrimination to the few survivors of the many thousands who came, they are speaking to the whole community that was directly affected and the community of people who perpetrated those particular acts of discrimination, and by doing so, to achieve healing and reconciliation. We need actions like this.
As the hon. member for Little Mountain said, each generation regrettably relives the need to relearn the lessons of tolerance, understanding and acceptance of all people. There is an act of learning for our children, families and communities that is a part of this expiation, and we are all in need of that to occur so that we are reminded that these instances are not gone from us in terms of our thoughts, deeds and actions. By taking action to acknowledge and redress what happened to a very large number of our early residents, who could not become citizens for far too long a time, we recognize that there is still much to be done, much for us to learn, much for us to do as a responsible, tolerant and harmonious citizenry.
In taking this action today, this House is involved in an act of cleansing, healing and reconciliation that, like the butterflies in Mexico which affect the climate very far away, can affect our acknowledgment of tolerance for the community of men, women and children who make up our province and our country. I know that this motion and this debate serves a purpose that can have a wider meaning, and therefore it is a significant debate in this House today.
E. Barnes: I am almost in awe to enter this debate. I want to say to the member for Vancouver-Kensington that he has provided us one of those rare opportunities to discuss a matter that is too often assumed to be beyond the purview of the urgency of business that we are engaged in from day to day. But after listening to the statements made by so many of the members in this Legislature this morning, it struck me that we could do a whole lot better in addressing the concerns that really matter to Canada and to the many peoples from around the world who are relying on us to really think with our hearts as well as our heads.
If we had a Hansard back in the 1885 and 1923 debates.... How interesting were the comments made by the members of the day, who were imposing the Chinese exclusion act, and suggesting ideas about the head tax and means of exploiting the humanity of others for the benefit of the people of the day! I have not seen or heard one person stand this morning and speak against this resolution. That in itself is very significant. Not one person has said one disparaging word about one of the most repugnant eras in our history. Everybody seems to recognize that that was a grave wrong, a reflection upon this society that none of us wants to be associated with -- at least no one that is in this room this morning. That is very significant to me.
I can recall my own youth. From time to time we talk about things we can relate to from a personal point of view in trying to address issues that were essentially supposed to affect a particular group in society. What we are realizing is that there are no distinctions: no matter what group or religion you are from, when it comes to coexisting, cooperating and living together, making the dreams and ideals of a democratic society a reality is an awesome task.
Many times I sit back and wonder if we have yet discovered the combination of acts and values that is really necessary in order to bring everybody on board so we can relate to the humanizing experiences that
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others have -- those people who are of a different race, culture, faith, social or economic status, or are from a different part of the world; who are essentially human beings, but are for some reason different from oneself. To be able to find that common denominator, that common sense of what it takes to bring us together, to make us see why we need to understand that it is essential for us to respect the other person.... It's not that well understood -- I'm certain of that -- otherwise we wouldn't have the need to make comments like the member for Vancouver-Little Mountain made, which were repeated by the hon. Minister of Education and Minister Responsible for Multiculturalism when she said that we seem to have to repeat experiences that we have gone through in the past as new generations come on stream. The reason is that we have yet to come to grips with our fears and insecurities about our own sense of purpose, our sense of being human beings. We have yet to learn these basic lessons.
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With the guidelines that we follow today in our institutions around the world, and as we continue to experiment with the competitive elements in our society in terms of how to achieve the promises that are available to us as individuals, we have yet to find a way to harmonize those virtues. In the process we step on each other, we crush each other, we're insensitive to each other, not because we're innately vicious or indifferent or don't care; but for some reason we think it's necessary for us to protect ourselves or to find our own security. We look for any means by which we can do this.
I'm pretty sure that this was the rationale behind those racist laws. I'm pretty sure that my forefathers -- those who came before me many hundreds of years ago to this country, to this land -- were part of an economic strategy as slaves. Make no mistake about it. It wasn't just the whites who had slaves; black people had slaves as well. There were slaves in this country. There were slaves in the United States. Black people were selling their own people, trying to stay alive. I only say that because when we start to talk about what the problem is -- although it's racism; there's no question about it -- the question is: which came first? The need to survive and exploitation, to the point that we set a standard; we established a purview or a sense of what was right and what was wrong, based on what was practised. A lot of people will say that they're not racist, because they don't understand what racism is.
This morning we are opening the debate at a level that I'm sure every single person in this chamber and in the community will understand. Everybody has a personal point of view on this. My dream is that each and every individual.... Believe me, I have a hard time finding anybody who hasn't got a grievance of some sort, who is not being discriminated against for some reason or another, whether it's because of their gender -- and we all know that we've done a lot of work on that in this House -- because of their physical condition or mental health, because they're in a wheelchair, or whatever. Now we've got genetic engineering. There may be a whole new wave of discrimination once we get into this DNA business of determining what a person's characteristics might be. This is the thing we've got to look at.
As a species on this earth, we are one and the same. But for some reason we've gone off in a series of directions, which has made that complex and has compounded our problems. If we're going to stop this thing, we must pass this resolution as an act of faith, as an act of recognizing the wrongs of the past and accepting that we can't change the past but are prepared to act, to be open and honest about the fact that our eyes were closed to the damage we were really doing.
It's no different than most of the initiatives that we have to deal with today. Our Minister of Environment, who is a very caring, decent human being, is trying to make some changes through his legislation. Look at the awesome problems he's having trying to tell us that we've been putting garbage in our environment and that we can't afford to do it any more. At the time that we invented plastics and other synthetics, we were able to get rid of more traditional ways and come up with these quick, overnight deals, where we had fast foods, and you name it. Everything was happening: quick packaging.... Now we're looking back and saying: "Hold it. We can't do that. There's a price."
There's a price when you offend another human being too. We realize that now. That's why we're all in accord here today. We all know that we must pay for our actions. We cannot expect to have a united Canada. We cannot expect people to strive to make those dreams a reality, those dreams that we believe a democracy can give us, as long as we have people who feel oppressed, left out and denied, and who feel that they don't have an opportunity, and who know that they're going to be exploited by someone who has more advantage than they do. That's the problem, and that's what we've got to get across to our young people in the classroom.
This is why we must stop having our PhDs and our MAs go on to higher positions of administration in the system. That's why they've got to stay in the grass roots, in the classroom. They've got to stay with the preschool age. We've got the people who know what they're doing and who understand what personal human growth and development are all about. Those are the people that we must put in there, not those who are aspiring to a higher job, who want to make more money. There's a great price we pay for that. We should celebrate those who have time to help the young people understand the awesome task they have in trying to coexist in a society where people are piecing off, dividing and exploiting. That's what this is about today.
I endorse and support the resolution, but I can tell you that's only the beginning. We've got to be able to talk about why we're doing this, why we're looking back -- that we're learning from the past. We've got to be able to know that this isn't just an isolated act. This is a profound statement that things have got to be done differently.
We've got to do them better -- and we can -- so that we can release the pressure on the legislators. Give them a chance to talk about a better way of doing things, so that we don't have these disparities. As we talk now, I am sure that we are probably committing
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some other offences without even knowing about them. So we've got to have more time to think about the impact on the lives of people. That's what it's all about, you know.
I want to thank the member for Vancouver-Kensington. In fact, I think it's appropriate for me to thank my constituents, because out of all the years I've been an MLA, I can't think of any time when I have been more proud to be here in this building. Having won the last election, I am now in a position to be part of this very special occasion. I thank everybody, and I want to congratulate everyone for their contribution. It is something we all can be proud of.
S. Hammell: I will be brief. The member for Vancouver-Burrard spoke much of what was on my mind. I am rising in support of the motion, and I want to reiterate my colleague from Vancouver-Kensington's position that we are not here to linger on the faults of our early politicians or pioneers, but to pay tribute to the Chinese community of our province, who prevailed despite intense discrimination and hardship, and built this province with the people of our first nation and immigrants from all over the world. As a child of those early pioneers, I want to do my part to right that wrong and to acknowledge that the imposition of the Chinese head tax was not a proud part of our history. I therefore want to join those in this House with like minds to urge the government of Canada to apologize to the Chinese community and to offer appropriate redress.
L. Krog: I think I can reflect on the words of the Deputy Speaker this morning in saying that this is an historic occasion in this chamber. It's one of those moments, as I look around this chamber, when I am very proud to be part of this assembly. I'm proud to be among a group that has spoken so eloquently about an issue that is long and -- you will pardon the pun -- an issue that needed redressing in this province and in this country.
I'm going to speak somewhat personally about the resolution before the House, because I have the honour of representing a portion of a city that is one of the oldest in this province. What I say is not only on behalf of myself but also of the member for Nanaimo, Mr. Lovick. I will begin by saying that if you go to the provincial museum in Nanaimo, the city museum down by the waterfront, there is a small memorial at the base of a cliff. If you turn around and look straight across, out into the Strait of Georgia, you will see Protection Island. Protection Island is a lovely little place dotted with cottages; again, like the city itself, it is historic and old. You will see there Gallows Point, where the first recorded judicially sanctioned hanging of any British Columbian took place a long time ago.
What you will not see is that beneath that island is a grave, a mine. The greatest mining disaster in the history of Nanaimo occurred under that island. The names of many of the victims are recorded -- approximately half of them -- but half the victims of that great disaster are unknown. Those are the Chinese who worked in that mine along with the Caucasians, the Slavs and the people from Newcastle and Scotland. Yet in that same community farther up the street is a restaurant, the Rendezvous. It's one of the oldest restaurants in Nanaimo. It is run by the Wong family. They have been in business in Nanaimo for a long, long time -- as long as I can remember and as long as my grandmother remembered. They have contributed, as have other Chinese Canadians, much to the city I represent. They have given to the community not only in their entrepreneurial spirit but also in the quality of the product they have served to the community as part of their business. They have worked hard in the social agencies, and have done that without resentment.
I can remember, as a little boy in Nanaimo, walking streets and seeing what was then a fairly significant Chinatown, as they used to call them. A number of British Columbian communities had them. I, like one of the members earlier, was sort of curious as to why I saw all these old men, never accompanied by their wives, never accompanied by children. As I grew older, I knew why. I learned the same lesson. I learned of the unspeakable horrors of the society that systematically, through its legal process, through its political process, discriminated in a base and vile way against people simply on the basis of their colour, and because it was feared that they would take away jobs.
It was in every sense of the word a prime example of the exploitation of the working classes, pitting one group of people against another for the economic benefit of some. There are, as the hon. member for Vancouver-Kensington explained, only a couple of hundred people left. The bill was repealed in 1923. At best, those still alive are in their eighties and their nineties, perhaps past 100. Surely in 1992, as a first step, as a cleansing of the conscience of the people of this province, we can unanimously pass this resolution. We should not simply pass it, but should appoint some of our members to carry on working with the federal government of this country in a very direct way, to finally make good and to finally redress this evil. Then -- to harken back to what I said when I first spoke in this Legislature -- I can look people of Chinese ancestry in this country straight in the eye without feeling that continuing sense of shame, knowing that there are among us Canadians who paid a special price, not just in money, but a very special and awful price to enjoy the citizenship that came to me as easily as the paper arrives in my office every morning.
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I feel very strongly about this. I think of the history of this province. No one has read the history of the building of the railway that my friend alluded to without being conscious that, quite literally, the track of that great railroad, which bound this country together, which helped bring this very province into Confederation, was greased with the blood of the Chinese. Cumberland, a tiny community represented by the hon. member for Comox Valley, was the largest Chinese settlement north of San Francisco. This province's history is rich with Chinese culture and the contribution of the Chinese. What surprises me is that it has taken so long for this Legislature to arrive at a day where a motion like this could be presented and would
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receive the support of everyone in the House. It has taken a long time.
It is with a sense of the cleansing of our collective conscience as British Columbians that I rise today and pray that this House will unanimously pass this resolution.
A. Warnke: The original statement by the member for Vancouver-Kensington was most eloquent, in my opinion. He clearly outlined the historical background of discrimination against those of Chinese descent who immigrated to this country. I must admit at the outset that before coming to the chamber, I was naturally very interested in my friend from Vancouver-Kensington. I was tempted to say not one word, but just to support the amendment. But essentially I want to congratulate him on his statement. I must admit that as I listened to his remarks, there was tremendous wisdom that all of us should take note of.
There is another element that I'd like to draw to our attention. Indeed, this was reinforced all the more by some very eloquent remarks by the member for Vancouver-Burrard. I couldn't help but think, as I synthesized the remarks of both members, and indeed of all members throughout this Legislature, that while it appears easy for this generation to reflect on previous generations -- the member for Vancouver-Burrard put it most eloquently -- for that generation in the past there were reasons. We totally disagree with the actions and the sentiments expressed by previous generations. It is all so easy to see the mistakes of previous generations and to question their legacy. I must admit, as I was paying close attention to the member for Vancouver-Kensington, that I could not help but think that in his review of history, of the various provincial governments and indeed of the federal government, who were stimulated to pass legislation -- or, as the member pointed out, if not to pass it, certainly to put pressure on the federal government to pass certain kinds of legislation....
So I want to bring to the attention of the House, as I listen to that member and to the member for Vancouver-Burrard, who finally really drove it home for me, that we have to look at our own generation. I cannot but help think, as I review that history outlined, that we have a problem with the present Immigration Act. We have a problem, as provincial governments right now want some input and some control and some definition of immigration policy. As I reflect on that history, there is something incredibly wrong here, too. Who are we to suggest that our generation, or perhaps a future generation, as a result of the structuring of our laws and what we are advocating now, or at some point a provincial government might not be tempted to pass discriminatory laws. It is very worthwhile, therefore, to bring this to the attention of all of the members. I cannot help but to synthesize this wisdom and suggest that maybe this is a very good reason for opposing that temptation by provincial governments who want to have total control over immigration.
J. Dalton: I request leave to make an introduction.
Leave granted.
J. Dalton: In the gallery today there is a grade 11 class from Sentinel Secondary in West Vancouver, accompanied by their teacher, Ms. Dye. I would inform the House that Ms. Dye is the daughter of Kenneth Dye, the current head of the WCB and, of course, for ten years the excellent auditor general of Canada. May the House make them all welcome.
G. Brewin: I feel most humbled to rise in support of the resolution before us today. I don't want to speak for very long, but I did want to speak, representing Victoria as I do. As a former mayor of Victoria I represented the Chinatown that is part of our community.
Chinatown Victoria is one of the oldest in the province. It has an incredible history that goes back a long way, obviously, but hasn't much been written about. I want to commend to the members of the Legislature -- if they are interested in the history of some parts of the Chinese community, and some of their struggles, and some of the struggles with the interrelationship between the communities that existed then, as they do today -- a wonderful little book by a Victoria woman named Marilyn Bowering. The book is called To All Appearances A Lady, and it focuses on society around the turn of the century. It tells the story that we've heard many people speak of here, in terms of the difficulties of the Chinese community to some extent, but also some other parts of this.
There are two particular things I wanted to raise: (1)some of the difficulties that Chinese people here had economically; and (2) the solutions they found. One of the solutions was opium manufacturing. Victoria had at least four manufacturing operations until they were discovered by the then Minister of Finance in 1906, who promptly passed some regulations to ban them. Of course, it was the right thing to have done. But many Chinese -- unrecognized in this community, unable to respond or to participate in the community -- found themselves working in this field. Others tried to run businesses and to live with their families, and others without their families here. Opium was a major activity in the Victoria area back then, and I can point to a place where there now stands a hotel and where there was a manufacturing operation. Opium was imported from Asia, then manufactured and sent back.
The other part of the story in this wonderful novel talks about two women -- a Caucasian woman and a Chinese woman -- their struggle to be friends and how difficult that was for them. A third part is part of the tragedy of the story and part of the tragedy of the Chinese community. There is an island off Victoria that was a leper colony. For one reason or another, the only lepers there were Chinese. One of the women in the book, the Caucasian woman, found herself there on the island, caring for the gentlemen who were there.
All of this is just part of the history that we seek to join forces on today with everyone in this chamber, for which I feel very proud. It's very impressive that we should all come together with the sole purpose in mind to reinstate a balance as best we can and to take that
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balance to heart, so that we can recognize the need in this community and in Canada for people of many nationalities from many cultures.
Others have said it better than I, but one of the things we have to recognize in ourselves is that we must stop having difficulty with our need for immigration. There is a segment of our community that somehow doesn't recognize all of the ramifications and the need for immigration that we have. It isn't just for workers, because that is repetitious of what has happened in the past -- our insatiable need for workers. We go everywhere, but when we bring them here, we somehow don't accept them altogether. We don't quite want them here, and we have to get past that.
As a society and as representatives of our community in this Legislature, I think we have to recognize the role that we play as leaders in our community to help integrate the many nationalities that will come to our country, to our shores and to British Columbia in the years ahead, for there will be many more coming here. So we must take that lesson from the past.
Our action today is a very important one, and we must personally carry that message to our own communities, so that this does not happen again.
[The Speaker in the chair.]
U. Dosanjh: Hon. Speaker, obviously we have dealt today with an issue of very fundamental importance. When I was speaking myself and listening to others, as others have mentioned, I was also thinking about what we face in Canada today.
I was thinking of the historic injustices other than the Chinese head tax -- for example, the Japanese-Canadian issue that the hon. member for Mission-Kent spoke of this morning, the Italian-Canadian issue during the Second World War, the German-Canadian issue during the Second World War and the Ukrainian-Canadian issue -- interned and stripped of their fundamental rights in 26 different camps across the country. I also thought of the ship filled with Jewish refugees that came to the shores of Canada straight from Germany, and it being turned away. I also thought about the Komagata Maru anchored off Vancouver harbour for many days, and then turned back -- under the shadow of guns from a Canadian ship. I also thought about the Iraqi Canadians who during the Gulf crisis were followed and spied upon by our the national agency, CSIS. I also thought about the reflection of the tensions from south of the border into Toronto and Vancouver, and my mind went back to the events in Nova Scotia of approximately a year ago. I also thought about the picture on the front page of one of the recent issues of Maclean's as I was going through this chamber -- a fellow member had it on one of the desks. It had the picture of a young black man, and it read: "Young, black and angry."
If we don't deal with some of those injustices, including the Chinese head tax and the Chinese exclusion act injustice, we will have many angry faces on many more issues of other magazines in years to come. We can't afford to have that reality and those occurrences repeated on the beautiful soil and land of this country. This is a wonderful place, and we can make it an egalitarian and more compassionate, more caring and more equality-oriented society.
[12:45]
I'm sure this is not the first time this Legislature has discussed issues such as this. As the saying goes in the legal world from where I come, one has to be detached emotionally when talking about these issues. When one puts emotion into the debate, one is usually accused of making an argumentum ad hominem -- which is making an appeal to the human emotion. But when we're dealing with historic injustices and the actual issue that's going to face us in years to come as the face of Canada is changing -- it's becoming more multicoloured, multicultural and multiethnic.... If we do not deal with some of the fundamental errors of our past and deal with them today and not tomorrow, we will face this recurring reality, and we would have no one else to blame but ourselves.
In closing, I say that it's important for those of us who control the reins of power, either provincially or federally, to be generous. It's important for those of us who control the reins of power to be just and to be fair and to not fear going into the past and bringing out these injustices and looking at them openly and inquisitively, so that we can go into the depths of our consciences and deal with the issues that we have to deal with so that we can make Canada and British Columbia a more just society.
In asking for support on this resolution -- unanimous support, I hope -- I will simply read you two lines from Emerson, my favourite chap. He says: "In our condition of universal dependence, it seems heroic to let the petitioner be the judge of his necessity and to give all that is asked, though at great inconvenience." It is not inconvenient to provide adequate redress on the Chinese head tax and exclusion act issue. I'm certain that you will join me today -- and you have in terms of the speaking -- in saying to the federal government that it is in fact convenient, that it is just and equitable and fair, and that it is mandatory for us, if we want to stand tall as human beings and as politicians, to provide that long overdue redress.
Motion approved unanimously on a division.
Hon. G. Clark: A rare occasion for this House. May there be many more. I'll just advise members of the House and staff that the House will be sitting until 10 p.m. on Tuesday next week. And I can advise you in advance, if you like, that the House will also be sitting on Wednesday.
With that, hon. Speaker, I wish all hon. members a restful weekend for work again next week.
Hon. G. Clark moved adjournment of the House.
Motion approved.
The House adjourned at 12:56 p.m.
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